View Poll Results: What would you do?

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  • Draw or grab a firearm that is immediately next to you

    28 28.57%
  • Grab a clubbing weapon that is immediately next to you (ex. Golf club, baseball bat, etc)

    7 7.14%
  • Grab a stabbing weapon that is immediately next to you (ex. Kitchen knife, pocket knife, etc)

    6 6.12%
  • Run to another room to grab a locked up or hidden firearm and confront the home invaders

    11 11.22%
  • Run to another room to grab a stabbing or clubbing weapon and confront the home invaders

    3 3.06%
  • Run to another room and attempt to hide while dialing 911

    2 2.04%
  • Run out the backdoor of the house and attempt to escape

    6 6.12%
  • Freeze like a deer in the headlights

    6 6.12%
  • Rush the bad guys barehanded

    6 6.12%
  • Other (explain)

    23 23.47%
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Thread: Self defense: How prepared are you?

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    Re: Self defense: How prepared are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I think Heinlein said it best:

    "Get a shot off quickly. It upsets them, and gives you time to make the next shot perfect."

    That, and if you have to shoot someone, shoot them immediately and shoot them a LOT.

    No soliloquizing!
    Speed is nice
    accuracy is fatal

    attributed to Wyatt Earp



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    Re: Self defense: How prepared are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    black belt years ago TKD
    IPSC Master Class pistol Shot
    US Shooting Team-Shotgun
    All-American (Collegiate and Open) Skeet
    several hundred hours in formal defensive pistol instruction as a student and teacher
    NRA Distinguished Expert-Rifle, Shotgun
    Held the Ohio "pin" record for 27 years
    trained in silat for 5 years (knives)
    Escrima and Kali another few (sticks)
    CCW for 18 years, taught CCW classes for 7
    Nice, so we have 2 out of how many people are on this site.

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    Re: Self defense: How prepared are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    You might sneak up on me (I doubt it, I'm always very alert), but you aren't going to sneak past my dogs without a lot of barking... and I never go to the door without a pistol.

    I can tell when they're barking at people, as opposed to other dogs, cats, squirrels, imaginary squirrels, stray leaves or inanimate objects that might move if they don't bark.
    Yeah. Both my dogs are big. A catahoula mix and a purebred catahoula pup.

    The new dog is a ****ing monster.

    They use them to hunt pigs.

    She's a damned hunting pitbull!

    The old guy never barks unless something is going on, but even the pup has special barks. We can always tell when she's yelling at the stink kitty (skunk) or a stranger as opposed to the crews from the water department that she loves but has to chase their trucks.

    I don't know for sure if either would actually DO anything, but they certainly look and sound like they would!
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    Re: Self defense: How prepared are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Nice, so we have 2 out of how many people are on this site.
    A half day with me and you will be able to outshoot 90% of the sworn police officers in the USA. My 13 year old son can outshoot most of the cops in Cincinnati. If you wanna worry about people carrying guns you are better off worrying about cops rather than those of us with CCWs. The former chief firearms instructor of the Cincinnati PD noted in testimony that if he went to the police range during qualifications and pulled ten cops out randomly and pit them against a similar random selection at the indoor public target range (TargetWorld, Sharonville, Ohio-a northern suburb of Cincinnati) he would bet a thousand dollars the 10 people from the public target range would

    1) outshoot the police officers

    2) demonstrate better gun handling skills and safety than the police officers

    3) understand the use of force better

    Having trained both groups extensively, I agree with him



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    Re: Self defense: How prepared are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Yeah. Both my dogs are big. A catahoula mix and a purebred catahoula pup.

    The new dog is a ****ing monster.

    They use them to hunt pigs.

    She's a damned hunting pitbull!

    The old guy never barks unless something is going on, but even the pup has special barks. We can always tell when she's yelling at the stink kitty (skunk) or a stranger as opposed to the crews from the water department that she loves but has to chase their trucks.

    I don't know for sure if either would actually DO anything, but they certainly look and sound like they would!
    dogs tend to give you about an extra 3-4 minutes of warning. in that time I can put on my vest, get my wife and son in a safe location, and get out the heavy artillery and if its dark get the M4 with the night scope up and hot



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    Re: Self defense: How prepared are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    dogs tend to give you about an extra 3-4 minutes of warning. in that time I can put on my vest, get my wife and son in a safe location, and get out the heavy artillery and if its dark get the M4 with the night scope up and hot
    And if they hurt my dogs they're gonna be in REAL trouble!
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    Re: Self defense: How prepared are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    True, but I bet their hand to hand combat training will never be on par with their firearm training (if they have any at all in hand to hand). That makes any martial arts expert job easy, disarm for the win.


    Son, you don't know what you're talking about. I say that without meaning it ill, it is just that that statement makes it obvious you lack experience.


    I hope you don't find out the hard way. Let me see if I can help you avoid painful misunderstandings...


    I trained specifically in gun disarms, then put hundreds of hours into mastering the techniques. One of the things I do when I teach a class is show this skill off, taking guns away from people who don't think I can do it.... but then the next thing I do is teach them how to prevent even an expert from disarming them.

    I spent a lot of time training disarms. I am very good at it. Furthermore I have real world experience, and have been on the wrong end of various things that slice, dice or go bang. However, I do not consider disarms a preferred method of defense, .... because it is mighty damn risky in the real world.


    Also, assuming someone who packs heat has little or no HTH skills is quite a big assumption.... and you know what happens when you assume, especially when life and death are on the line.

    Save the disarms for showing off in the dojo, and for last-ditch desperation IRL. The best defense against a weapon is a better weapon, period.
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    Re: Self defense: How prepared are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    And if they hurt my dogs they're gonna be in REAL trouble!
    I have setters. not really aggressive but they both bark like crazy. We live on a hill 300 yards from the road. they bark when someone starts coming up the driveway. If there is a coyote in the horse pasture, they bark but its a different bark


    My wife is a red belt and competes in sporting clays, archery and bird hunts. My son got his black belt at 12, does knife patterns, shoots at least 5000 rounds a year out of pistols, hunts around the farm with a 22 or a bow and bird hunts with a shotgun



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    Re: Self defense: How prepared are you?

    True, I guess you don't want to bet money that your assailant has no practice seeing as how there is the military. Good points.

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    Re: Self defense: How prepared are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Son, you don't know what you're talking about.


    I hope you don't find out the hard way.


    I trained specifically in gun disarms, then put hundreds of hours into mastering the techniques. One of the things I do when I teach a class is show this skill off, taking guns away from people who don't think I can do it.... but then the next thing I do is teach them how to prevent even an expert from disarming them.

    I spent a lot of time training disarms. I am very good at it. Furthermore I have real world experience, and have been on the wrong end of various things that slice, dice or go bang. However, I do not consider disarms a preferred method of defense, .... because it is mighty damn risky in the real world.


    Also, assuming someone who packs heat has little or no HTH skills is quite a big assumption.... and you know what happens when you assume, especially when life and death are on the line.

    Save the disarms for showing off in the dojo, and for last-ditch desperation IRL. The best defense against a weapon is a better weapon, period.
    I am a big fan of the TDI weapons retention knife designed by my friend and trainer John Benner and made by Kabar. Someone tries to disarm you and they are focused on your handgun and you zap them with this knife that you draw with your weakhand

    I buy a bunch of these things every year and give them to cop friends

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