Suggestion on getting the debt ceiling raised....(read post)

[Kal'Stang]

From what I understand the majority of Republicans don't want to raise the debt ceiling because they know that we need to start making huge cuts in spending. So here's my little contribution to the debt ceiling arguement.

When they go to discuss this issue make this suggestion to the republicans. (note i'm going to act like a democrat for this) "If you agree to raise the debt ceiling we promise, and will add the stipulation into the bill for raising the debt ceiling, that we will not make any new spending bills until we have fully addressed making cuts to current spending and implemented those cuts. The cuts will not be below a minimum of 1 trillion dollars."

What do you think of this suggestion?

IMO it would deflate the sails of anyone that is against raising the debt ceiling and it would more than likely even give Democrats a positive image because it would show people that they really are serious about our debt problem. (Seriously...I do wonder if they are serious about it)

 

[BTDT]

...I voted other... in part, because a bird in hand is worth two in the bush... I'm tired of hearing about promises... spending must be cut while no more debt is allowed, which is just more spending later on... we have to plug the leaks... do, or do not... there is no try...

 

[1Perry]

Yep, politicians lie.

 

[Kal'Stang]

...I voted other... in part, because a bird in hand is worth two in the bush... I'm tired of hearing about promises... spending must be cut while no more debt is allowed, which is just more spending later on... we have to plug the leaks... do, or do not... there is no try...

Yep, politicians lie.

Hence why I added that the promise be made into a stipulation in the bill to raise the debt ceiling itself.

 

[tessaesque]

I'm sorry, but I'm not accepting "I promise" from any politician...party identification aside. Show me cuts, I'll raise the debt ceiling. Show me promises and I'm not budging.

 

[1Perry]

Hence why I added that the promise be made into a stipulation in the bill to raise the debt ceiling itself.

As noted, that does not force them to live up to that. Now......Snowe suggested passing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution. If they did that, then I would consider it.

 

[Kandahar]

From what I understand the majority of Republicans don't want to raise the debt ceiling because they know that we need to start making huge cuts in spending. So here's my little contribution to the debt ceiling arguement.

When they go to discuss this issue make this suggestion to the republicans. (note i'm going to act like a democrat for this) "If you agree to raise the debt ceiling we promise, and will add the stipulation into the bill for raising the debt ceiling, that we will not make any new spending bills until we have fully addressed making cuts to current spending and implemented those cuts. The cuts will not be below a minimum of 1 trillion dollars."

What do you think of this suggestion?

IMO it would deflate the sails of anyone that is against raising the debt ceiling and it would more than likely even give Democrats a positive image because it would show people that they really are serious about our debt problem. (Seriously...I do wonder if they are serious about it)

:lol:
I am 100% supportive of this idea. It raises the debt ceiling, gives the Republicans a face-saving way to declare victory, while giving them nothing of any meaningful substance. Too bad it would never actually get any Republican support.

 

[withoutjudgemen]

i am all for spending cuts!!
take that money out of the wars in the east and the war on drugs here in america, invest it in our economy and that will solve the debt problem. return the tax rate on corporations to what it was before W. end overseas loopholes, where is all this money coming from?

 

[Kal'Stang]

So in essence despite there being a clause in the bill to raise the debt ceiling stopping them from considering anything else but making cuts (at least until the 1 trillion was met)...you all contend that they would ignore what they made law?

hmmm.....

 

[cpwill]

From what I understand the majority of Republicans don't want to raise the debt ceiling because they know that we need to start making huge cuts in spending. So here's my little contribution to the debt ceiling arguement.

When they go to discuss this issue make this suggestion to the republicans. (note i'm going to act like a democrat for this) "If you agree to raise the debt ceiling we promise, and will add the stipulation into the bill for raising the debt ceiling, that we will not make any new spending bills until we have fully addressed making cuts to current spending and implemented those cuts. The cuts will not be below a minimum of 1 trillion dollars."

What do you think of this suggestion?

IMO it would deflate the sails of anyone that is against raising the debt ceiling and it would more than likely even give Democrats a positive image because it would show people that they really are serious about our debt problem. (Seriously...I do wonder if they are serious about it)

well, given that the Republican position is that they are willing to raise the debt ceiling by the same amount as they cut, I would simply want those cuts in the same bill, and I would demand they equal at least a trillion dollars.



but don't tell me about "things you promise to do in the future". Democrats won't even follow the law and come up with a budget. that promise is worth less than the oxygen it took to make it.




to answer your question: no, Democrats are not serious about the debt. Harry Reid's suggestion for raising the debt ceiling was to include another stimulus package.

 

[withoutjudgemen]

how about the fact that republicans voted to raise the det celing 12 times under ronald butloving reagan and 8 times under goerge w bush and that is fine but now there is a democrat in office it is unthinkable?

 

[OhIsee.Then]

how about the fact that republicans voted to raise the det celing 12 times under ronald butloving reagan and 8 times under goerge w bush and that is fine but now there is a democrat in office it is unthinkable?

YES! After all Obama isn't even a US citizen, just a black Muslin Kenyan. Nothing rational should be done until the next election or impeachment if he uses the 14th. Do I have this correct?

 

[lpast]

how about the fact that republicans voted to raise the det celing 12 times under ronald butloving reagan and 8 times under goerge w bush and that is fine but now there is a democrat in office it is unthinkable?

Look both democrats and republicans play games...in all fairness to the GOP...Pelosi and the dems did the same thing to the GOP shoving obamacare down everyones throat...what the gop is doing now is no different....Pelosi spent a trillion dollars and took 400 billion out of medicare....the teaparty just wants to go further and mass gas all the working class once and for all and get rid of them...its a game both sides play

 

[celticwar17]

how about the fact that republicans voted to raise the det celing 12 times under ronald butloving reagan and 8 times under goerge w bush and that is fine but now there is a democrat in office it is unthinkable?

I don't really care about what any party did in the past... NOW is a totally different situation in a totally different era. Back then i would probably be opposed to the debt ceiling raises.

The GOP has a completely different attitude as it did then, and even as it did one presidential election ago. The Tea Party is a good representation that the GOP is fundamentally changing into a small government/ low spending party.

 

[cpwill]

how about the fact that republicans voted to raise the det celing 12 times under ronald butloving reagan and 8 times under goerge w bush and that is fine but now there is a democrat in office it is unthinkable?

could you please direct me to the incident where Bush or Reagan asked for a 2.4 Trillion increase when the US was already borrowing 43 cents on the dollar? thanks