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  • I support a minimum wage law

    26 45.61%
  • I support a maximum wage law

    6 10.53%
  • I support minimum benefits law

    11 19.30%
  • I support Maximum benefits law

    4 7.02%
  • I oppose a minimum wage law

    27 47.37%
  • I oppose a maximum wage law

    30 52.63%
  • I oppose a minimum benefits law

    27 47.37%
  • I oppose a maximum benefits law

    30 52.63%
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    Re: Do you support a minimum and maximum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Unemployment Level Since Democrats raised the Minimum Wage


    Surely a minimum wage of $50.00/hr would solve all problems........
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    Re: Do you support a minimum and maximum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Unemployment Level Since Democrats raised the Minimum Wage


    Surely a minimum wage of $50.00/hr would solve all problems........
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    The spike in unemployment was not due to the minimum wage.

    Without a minimum wage the income inequality in this country would grow even worse, and the standard of living would also go down. No one in this country should work at the same pay rate as someone in a third world country.
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    Re: Do you support a minimum and maximum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Minimum Wage amounts to $15,080 in a 52 week year. The Federal Poverty Level for one person is $10,890 for all States other than Alaska, and Hawaii which are slightly higher.

    It is very difficult live on Minimum Wage in most States, I would like to see it Raised to $8.00 an hour, in the hope that people can manage to get by on it.
    In 2004 I made $7.35/hour working 35 hours a week. I wasn't eligible for health benefits, so my take home was about $205.80 a week, which was $10,701 a year. On that I paid for an apartment, electricity, basic cable/internet, and food. I didn't get new clothes very often and didn't go out much (I was only 18, not a lot of "going out" options anyway), but I survived. My apartment was $320 in rent (decent-ish area, low crime, older complex) and electricity and cable were $100 combined, on average.

    Now, I realize that was 7 years ago...but doing a quick search in that area I could still get an apartment at that rent rate. I might have some difficulties in the electricity area now, though.

    In Texas, the current minimum wage is $7.25. When I was 18 it was $5.50. I worked ONE job at minimum wage....as a carphop at Sonic. They said that because people tip, we got minimum wage rates. I usually averaged about $75-150 in tips a week, depending on my schedule. I also worked at Hallmark, 7-11, and an ice rink during high school and made more than minimum wage at all of them.

    I think it's possible for a single person to survive on a pay rate at or near minimum wage in many areas. I think it'd be a struggle, and they're not going to have a two-story brick home in a gated subdivision, or a brand new Mercedes in their parking spot...but it's still doable. Then again, the jobs that pay at or very close to minimum wage aren't exactly advancement positions...or even very challenging. Low-paying positions are usually true entry-level, menial tasks, or jobs geared towards people who are seeking as little professional responsibility as possible.

    Because of that, I have no problem keeping the minimum wage where it is. These jobs are not designed for people to make a living doing them. They supplemental positions, or positions for those seeking extra or extraneous income. If you're using these jobs to survive on I think the issue is you, not the pay.

    I definitely don't support a maximum wage. You stifle growth and recruitment that way. When my former employer announced that there was a pay cap on my position I decided I wouldn't be sticking around. There was no room for growth into other positions and no chance of increasing my salary beyond the cap I had hit. I wasn't content making $35k/year for the rest of my career. If we make a "maximum wage" I'd bet good money that companies would create maximum wages at all levels of employ.
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    Re: Do you support a minimum and maximum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The spike in unemployment was not due to the minimum wage.
    So raising the minimum wage has no effect whatsoever.........

    .......we could raise the minimum wage to $50.00/hr and unemployment wouldnt increase at all......

    Without a minimum wage the income inequality in this country would grow even worse, and the standard of living would also go down. No one in this country should work at the same pay rate as someone in a third world country.
    All a minimum wage does is eliminate the jobs once available to teenagers and low skilled workers..........
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    Re: Do you support a minimum and maximum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    So raising the minimum wage has no effect whatsoever.........

    .......we could raise the minimum wage to $50.00/hr and unemployment wouldnt increase at all......
    Those unemployment numbers were due to the recession brought on by Wallstreet screwing around, and you damn well know it.

    All a minimum wage does is eliminate the jobs once available to teenagers and low skilled workers..........
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    Just plain false. It keeps those teenagers, and low skilled workers from being exploited by the companies, and allow them to be paid decently for their work.
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    Re: Do you support a minimum and maximum wage?

    An employer with 8 people making minimum wage + the 2007 Minimum Wage increase........

    8 x $2.10 x 40 x 52 = $34,944.00

    Where does the employer get the extra 35 grand........besides their money tree?

    Raise the minimum wage and you simply raise unemployment......
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    Re: Do you support a minimum and maximum wage?

    >>> No one in this country should work at the same pay rate as someone in a third world country. <<<

    ...why not?

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    Re: Do you support a minimum and maximum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by BTDT View Post
    >>> No one in this country should work at the same pay rate as someone in a third world country. <<<

    ...why not?
    Do you really wanna try to live in this country on pennies an hour?
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    Re: Do you support a minimum and maximum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    In 2004 I made $7.35/hour working 35 hours a week. I wasn't eligible for health benefits, so my take home was about $205.80 a week, which was $10,701 a year. On that I paid for an apartment, electricity, basic cable/internet, and food. I didn't get new clothes very often and didn't go out much (I was only 18, not a lot of "going out" options anyway), but I survived. My apartment was $320 in rent (decent-ish area, low crime, older complex) and electricity and cable were $100 combined, on average.

    Now, I realize that was 7 years ago...but doing a quick search in that area I could still get an apartment at that rent rate. I might have some difficulties in the electricity area now, though.

    In Texas, the current minimum wage is $7.25. When I was 18 it was $5.50. I worked ONE job at minimum wage....as a carphop at Sonic. They said that because people tip, we got minimum wage rates. I usually averaged about $75-150 in tips a week, depending on my schedule. I also worked at Hallmark, 7-11, and an ice rink during high school and made more than minimum wage at all of them.

    I think it's possible for a single person to survive on a pay rate at or near minimum wage in many areas. I think it'd be a struggle, and they're not going to have a two-story brick home in a gated subdivision, or a brand new Mercedes in their parking spot...but it's still doable. Then again, the jobs that pay at or very close to minimum wage aren't exactly advancement positions...or even very challenging. Low-paying positions are usually true entry-level, menial tasks, or jobs geared towards people who are seeking as little professional responsibility as possible.

    Because of that, I have no problem keeping the minimum wage where it is. These jobs are not designed for people to make a living doing them. They supplemental positions, or positions for those seeking extra or extraneous income. If you're using these jobs to survive on I think the issue is you, not the pay.

    I definitely don't support a maximum wage. You stifle growth and recruitment that way. When my former employer announced that there was a pay cap on my position I decided I wouldn't be sticking around. There was no room for growth into other positions and no chance of increasing my salary beyond the cap I had hit. I wasn't content making $35k/year for the rest of my career. If we make a "maximum wage" I'd bet good money that companies would create maximum wages at all levels of employ.

    I have no idea what state that is...but in NY and NJ you cant get an apartment even one thats falling aparty for under 700 a month plus utils...and try paying an electric bill in either of those two states....look in the Northeast NO ONE can survive alone on minimum wage paying their own rent and bills no ONE

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    Re: Do you support a minimum and maximum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Do you really wanna try to live in this country on pennies an hour?


    ...well, do you think every worker of every "third world" country makes the equivalent of ~USD$0.03/hr? why?

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