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    Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    Racism - the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races

    Argument #1: Yes, there were racists in 1776 because there were people who believed that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

    Argument #2: No, there were not any racists in 1776 because white superiority was the the prevailing scientific theory at the time. Because scientists believed white superiority to be true, neither they nor anyone else was racist.

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    False science doesn't excuse racism.
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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

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    Argument #2: No, there were not any racists in 1776 because white superiority was the the prevailing scientific theory at the time. Because scientists believed white superiority to be true, neither they nor anyone else was racist.
    This would represent an example of two logical fallicies rolled into one -- the apeal to popularity and the apeal to authority.
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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    Of course they were racist, a belief in something doesn't make it true.
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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    The Founding Generation turned over the design of the Capital City to a black man. There were black voters. George Washington ran his own spy ring during the war, and his top agent was... a black guy; Washington based some pretty heavy plays on him. You don't let someone who you think is inherently stupid design your capital city, you don't put the fate of your country's military in his hands, and you are unlikely to let him vote.

    Racism came later.

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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Racism - the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races

    Argument #1: Yes, there were racists in 1776 because there were people who believed that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

    Argument #2: No, there were not any racists in 1776 because white superiority was the the prevailing scientific theory at the time. Because scientists believed white superiority to be true, neither they nor anyone else was racist.
    Racism is still racism it doesn't matter if they have a theory or false science to "back" it up. Which founding forefathers were racist is a different matter. Slavery is tied in with greed not racism.
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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    Lets see now... they gave legal protection to a system of enslaving a race of people. That reality would get a YES vote from me in this poll.

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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    How can anyone know absolutely either way?
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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Racism is still racism it doesn't matter if they have a theory or false science to "back" it up. Which founding forefathers were racist is a different matter. Slavery is tied in with greed not racism.
    Slavery is tied with greed and racism, otherwise they would've enslaved everyone, not just blacks.
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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    For the record, I answered "yes".

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