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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    You just admitted a few posts ago that you agree with me, so you just accused yourself of having a "vacant simple minded notion". I just wanted to point that out for your ego.
    I do NOT agree with you. I have stated since the beginning that SOME people are racist, have been racist and always will be racist. Individuals...bitter angry unhappy little people. There will ALWAYS be racists. 'Society' was not racist then because they engaged in normal and commonly held beliefs. If it was just a question of 'where some people racist' then there would have been no arguments in this or the last thread but that wasnt what you were striving for. You know better.

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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    I must say however it is FASCINATING how you so completely avoid like the plague the reality that there exists this modern practice of slavery and what we must call those people that still practice it today. Good lord...it must suck living in politically correct hell.

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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    Jefferson once said that black women were less human because they could not visibly blush.
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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    Quote Originally Posted by fiddytree View Post
    jefferson once said that black women were less human because they could not visibly blush.
    lmfao

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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I do NOT agree with you. I have stated since the beginning that SOME people are racist, have been racist and always will be racist.
    Then you agree with me since that's been my only argument.

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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Jefferson once said that black women were less human because they could not visibly blush.
    hahaha. i love fun facts.

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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I must say however it is FASCINATING how you so completely avoid like the plague the reality that there exists this modern practice of slavery and what we must call those people that still practice it today. Good lord...it must suck living in politically correct hell.
    I think it's more fascinating that you keep bringing up this topic in threads/conversations that have nothing to do with it and then accuse people of avoiding discussing it when in fact they're trying to stick to the topic at hand and not fall into your delusional nonsensical little strawmen. If you care so much about this obviously important slavery topic, start a thread on it.

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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Then you agree with me since that's been my only argument.
    That comment has been made by numerous people at numerous times. There is a world of difference between yes, some people are, were, and will be racists and "people were racists back in 1776 because they had slaves and some of them believed they were savage." You continue to make the illogical leap that some bad people somehow relates to an era or time. We dont have slavery today...we have a pretty good understanding of the development of mankind...and SOME people are still racist assholes.

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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    hahaha. i love fun facts.
    I may have been slightly off. It would have been just blacks in general, I believe. He loved the sight of the blush.
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    Re: Were there racists in 1776? (read post first)

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    The Founding Generation turned over the design of the Capital City to a black man. There were black voters. George Washington ran his own spy ring during the war, and his top agent was... a black guy; Washington based some pretty heavy plays on him. You don't let someone who you think is inherently stupid design your capital city, you don't put the fate of your country's military in his hands, and you are unlikely to let him vote.

    Racism came later.
    Racism existed back then, it just wasn't as pronounced as it came to be after the civil war. When you lose, you look to someone else to pick on to make you feel better.
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