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StillBallin75 said:
I don't for a second pretend to think that education = intelligence. However, the average liberal IS more educated than the average conservative. This really isn't a debatable point. I also remember a study that another poster cited awhile ago that said that the average self-identifying liberal is 6% more wealthy than the average self-professed conservative. Of course, that's just one study, but your notion that the liberal core base consists primarily of parasitic government dependents who simply want to take more from the rich is arguably false.

You've also fallen into the trap of making the bogus assumption that I meant educated to mean smart, and that liberal = Democratic.
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two of the biggest dem support groups are teachers and lawyers-groups that have usually a college degree and an advanced degree. Those who teach tend to be among the least gifted intellectually among college majors. The dems also dominate the preference of people with low IQs and low rates of HS graduation. Why? because teachers and lawyers and professors often are either working for the government or do better in left win controlled governments. Republicans tend to do best among entrepreneurs and professions that are not mainly employed by the government (engineers, doctors, MBAs)

PhDs often work for federally funded universities so their allegiance to the dems is understandable.

It comes down to those who are rich or well paid due to the government vote dem while those who are rich or well paid despite the government vote GOP. Those who are dependent on the government for handouts also tend to vote Dem
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Assuming your stats are correct, it validates a theory I have, higher education has become liberal indoctrination.
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Well, in the words of Stephen Colbert, reality has a well known liberal bias.
 
TurtleDude said:
two of the biggest dem support groups are teachers and lawyers-groups that have usually a college degree and an advanced degree. Those who teach tend to be among the least gifted intellectually among college majors. The dems also dominate the preference of people with low IQs and low rates of HS graduation. Why? because teachers and lawyers and professors often are either working for the government or do better in left win controlled governments. Republicans tend to do best among entrepreneurs and professions that are not mainly employed by the government (engineers, doctors, MBAs)

PhDs often work for federally funded universities so their allegiance to the dems is understandable.

It comes down to those who are rich or well paid due to the government vote dem while those who are rich or well paid despite the government vote GOP. Those who are dependent on the government for handouts also tend to vote Dem
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Nope.
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TurtleDude said:
two of the biggest dem support groups are teachers and lawyers-groups that have usually a college degree and an advanced degree. Those who teach tend to be among the least gifted intellectually among college majors. The dems also dominate the preference of people with low IQs and low rates of HS graduation. Why? because teachers and lawyers and professors often are either working for the government or do better in left win controlled governments. Republicans tend to do best among entrepreneurs and professions that are not mainly employed by the government (engineers, doctors, MBAs)

PhDs often work for federally funded universities so their allegiance to the dems is understandable.

It comes down to those who are rich or well paid due to the government vote dem while those who are rich or well paid despite the government vote GOP. Those who are dependent on the government for handouts also tend to vote Dem
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These observations and generalizations based upon empirical evidence, Turtle? Or are they based on pure conjecture?
 
sawyerloggingon said:
At the risk of repeating myself, higher education “has become” liberal indoctrination. You may think you come out educated but you may just come out brainwashed.
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And how do universities "indoctrinate" students.
 
soccerboy22 said:
Well my wouldn't graduate me until I worshipped Marx and vowed to bring in the new Communist revolution.
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Oh yeah, that's true. I had to recite the entire Communist Manifesto before I could get my degree. I forgot about that.
 
soccerboy22 said:
Did you also learn to hate the word God, but love the word Allah?
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Of course. Naturally all our girls wear full burkas when they aren't having wild, drunken sex parties.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
At the risk of repeating myself, higher education “has become” liberal indoctrination. You may think you come out educated but you may just come out brainwashed.
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Are you sure you're an independent? You sound like one of those who would be included in a tea-party fringe group, that people use to stereotype the entire movement.
 
I really hate the ages you made this poll with... I'll be leaving the 40-49 group shortly ;(
 
repeter said:
Are you sure you're an independent? You sound like one of those who would be included in a tea-party fringe group, that people use to stereotype the entire movement.
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I am basically conservative but I don’t march lockstep with any movement so I call myself independent. I break with mainstream conservatives on social issues mostly, gay marriage, legalized pot, gambling, prostitution, abortion, stuff like that. As for liberal indoctrination in higher education I will give you an example. My nephew was required to write a paper on HOW manmade global warming is affecting planet not IF it even exist. He defied the order and wrote his paper on why global warming theory is on shaky ground. His professor threw a tantrum, shouted and screamed and got all red in the face. He tore the paper up and ridiculed my nephew in front of entire class. My nephew ROCKS, he refuses to be herded like a sheep. My brothers done a fine job raising the kid.
 
Had my last birthday of my 40s last month. I still feel myself to be a teenager, except when I tune into a modern pop music radio station or start a third set of tennis. Re: the debate about becoming more conservtive as you get older, I've never understood it. I began a screaming leftie, moved towards the centre and then moved back out left - further left, in fact - as I progressed through my 40s.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
My nephew was required to write a paper on HOW manmade global warming is affecting planet not IF it even exist.
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There is no question that releasing previously sequestered CO2 can result in a runaway greenhouse effect; its a net increase of CO2. The question is in quantifying that effect. If your nephew was a reasonable person, he would have argued that the effects are so minute, along with various other events, that they are essentially negligible. No, your nephew is a result of the opposite extreme; complete and total rejection of a scientific fact.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
I am basically conservative but I don’t march lockstep with any movement so I call myself independent. I break with mainstream conservatives on social issues mostly, gay marriage, legalized pot, gambling, prostitution, abortion, stuff like that. As for liberal indoctrination in higher education I will give you an example. My nephew was required to write a paper on HOW manmade global warming is affecting planet not IF it even exist. He defied the order and wrote his paper on why global warming theory is on shaky ground. His professor threw a tantrum, shouted and screamed and got all red in the face. He tore the paper up and ridiculed my nephew in front of entire class. My nephew ROCKS, he refuses to be herded like a sheep. My brothers done a fine job raising the kid.
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If that's really how the professor acted, it was a serious overreaction, but I suspect some part of that story might be getting slightly exaggerated. As for the assignment, the existence of global warming doesn't change based on your political affiliation.
 
Andalublue said:
Had my last birthday of my 40s last month. I still feel myself to be a teenager, except when I tune into a modern pop music radio station or start a third set of tennis. Re: the debate about becoming more conservtive as you get older, I've never understood it. I began a screaming leftie, moved towards the centre and then moved back out left - further left, in fact - as I progressed through my 40s.
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Maybe that's why you still feel like a teenager. Something to think about: Does liberalism keep people "young?" or alternatively, does it keep people from maturing?
 
LuckyDan said:
Maybe that's why you still feel like a teenager. Something to think about: Does liberalism keep people "young?" or alternatively, does it keep people from maturing?
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If by "maturing" you mean "agreeing with you," then yes it does.
 
atrasicarius said:
If by "maturing" you mean "agreeing with you," then yes it does.
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No, that's not what I mean.

I mean, do people resist a sudden conservative impulse that may come with age because it makes them feel as though their youth is slipping away? Like I said, just a thought.
 
I credit Clinton for turning me conservative. I voted for him in 92, the last time I voted dem. Before that I barely paid attention to politics but considered myself dem because of the dems are for working man reps are for rich line of crap. Clinton era got me paying attention to politics and it suddenly dawned on me that the DNC sucked. They were complete BS pack of lies con men. That era was when logging was number one lib scare tactic instead of today’s global warming thing and logging industry was getting decimated. Clinton came along and said “I’ll reduce the cut but you will have a cut you can count on and industry will stabilize. Instead he reduced cut 70% and did nothing to stop enviro appeals as he said he would. Things got worse not better. This got my attention and it became obvious everything dems do and say is a complete lie. As I said, I haven’t voted dem since.
 
DashingAmerican said:
Well, if that's true, why are the majority of college kids liberal?
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Because their minds are currently open. Most people get older, their minds close, et voila; conservatives. :D
 
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