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    Re: New states?

    I have a niece who lives in DC with her husband and she always complains about the same things you do Kandahar. I still think DC should remain a federal district, but it should be upgraded so that residents of DC have the same political rights as those who live in a neighboring state.

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    Re: New states?

    I did not know this:
    Washington, D.C., is governed by a mayor and a 13-member city council. However, the United States Congress has supreme authority over the city and may overturn local laws. Residents of the District therefore have less self-governance than residents of the states. The District has a non-voting, at-large Congressional delegate, but no senators. D.C. residents could not vote in presidential elections until the ratification of the Twenty-third Amendment to the United States Constitution in 1961.
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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    They were not omnipotent gods who had the answer to every political issue, they were human beings who were products of their era (which happened to be the 1760s-1790s) and often made mistakes.
    Of course they weren't but the idea behind limiting the the capital was brilliant.

    First, being a member of Congress was never and should never be a full time job.

    Second, creating a state that is also the seat of the federal government with essentially unlimited funds, paid for by the rest of the nation, is incredibly unethical.

    Third, having the population have additional representation will cause further misappropriation of funds to the capital state.

    So no thanks, DC residents don't need to have anymore representation than they already do.
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    Re: New states?

    Does DC have any industry? Natural Resources?

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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by snilloctjc View Post
    Does DC have any industry? Natural Resources?
    Politicians and lobbyists, they seem to grow straight from the ground.
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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Our forefathers can go **** themselves.
    NOT cool. We wouldn't have the U.S.A. if it wasn't for them. You're letting your lefty side out too much lol.
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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Our forefathers can go **** themselves. Their reasons for not wanting DC statehood 200 years ago are not a good enough reason to deny DC residents the right to a representative democracy today.
    I have to agree.

    If you pay FIT, you should have full representation in Congress.

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    Re: New states?

    D.C. is a federal district. That's important.

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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by hallam View Post
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    Here is another reason DC shouldn't get to be a state. It is local government functions as a state currently. Breaking up DC into small communities is not warranted and giving DC a Governor, Assembly, and State Senate in addition to the Mayor and City Counsel where everyone would just be leading the exact same population would just cause confusion, more political division, and be a waste to money. There is more to being a state then just getting House Members and Senators.
    Even tho denying fellow countrymen representation in Congress (one of the biggest reasons our revolution started) sits BADLY with me as unamerican, and wrong......I agree with this. It simply just doesn't make enough sense and seems like a waste of money and resources.
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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Why should we have to move in order to live in a democratic society?
    Because DC was specifically created to hold the US government on independent land. It is all federal land. If you were born there, sorry but the Federal government being independent is more important to the people of DC getting Congressional representation since there are alternatives. If you moved there, then you knew what you were getting into.

    I might add that if the roles were reversed and Philly was the nations capital on Federal land and created specifically to hold the Federal government outside of any States control, then the same rules would apply. I moved to Philly. I would have known that moving here would mean that I wouldn't get representation. If I had a significant issue with this (which I probably wouldn't), then I could move further into PA or to MD, DE, or NJ to get representation. Like DC, SEPTA makes living in any of these areas easy to commute into Philly.
    Last edited by hallam; 07-05-11 at 07:10 PM.

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