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    Re: New states?

    Let them be states if they so desire. It's better than not having them as our territory. Having territories under US control in the pacific like Guam are excellent for our national defense.

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    Re: New states?

    other territories are more than welcome to become American states.

    but once they're in...they're in. no going back.

    we are not a confederation of independent states, like the EU.

    we are ONE country, ONE nation.

    don't join us unless you want to be part of that.

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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    If anything, DC has become so corrupt that there is an even GREATER reason today to deny them statehood.
    Huh, corruption? DC has its share (e.g. Vince Gray and Marion Berry), but it has a hell of a lot less corruption than some actual states like Louisiana, New Jersey, Ohio, or Illinois. And unlike those states, DC's government is reasonably competent and effective overall. So that's no reason to deny it statehood.

    The citizens should be absorbed by one of the surrounding states and the transient government employees should become very much MORE transient.
    Neither Maryland nor Virginia wants DC, so that solution doesn't work.
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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by hallam View Post
    No, I don't see people moving as more ridiculous because not everyone has a problem with losing these rights and not everyone who lives in DC feel as though they are DC'ns (?). The people in DC live there for many reasons most move there for federal positions, are staff to the federal government, or work for federally supporting business (e.g. restaurants, hotels, lobbying groups, NGO, Non-Profits, etc). Those who really feel that they are being slighted can move to Virgina, Maryland, WV, Delaware, PA or some other state and commute in. The transit system is pretty expansive in DC by the way.
    Why should we have to move in order to live in a democratic society?
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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by hallam View Post
    To deny the people of DC their representation by Congress is the price for living in DC. No one is making them live there.
    How about we deny Philly residents representation in Congress? Sorry, that's the price you have to pay for living there. And if you don't like it, GTFO and live somewhere else.
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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nanten Janubi View Post
    I think you and I have different definitions of the word 'logistics'.

    Anyway, you think it's okay for some American citizens to live without representation not based upon their actions, but upon where they live.

    I don't. Difference of opinion, I guess.
    Them moving to DC was an action. Them not moving from DC is also an act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    How about we deny Philly residents representation in Congress? Sorry, that's the price you have to pay for living there. And if you don't like it, GTFO and live somewhere else.
    Its not the nations capitol.
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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There was a reason for that. You should try googling it.
    Tell that to the people that pay taxes yet get no representation.. You can google that if you like..

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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Its not the nations capitol.
    So what? You still haven't explained why DC residents should be denied democracy just by nature of the fact that there are some federal buildings downtown on the Mall.
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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Like I just said there never was supposed to be a big city there.
    Well.. Why don't you go google why there is a big city there.. Then google why the people that live there pay taxes but have no representation.. Then google whether our not you would like to live under those circumstances.. Perhaps next time you tell someone to google something.. You ask for clarification..

    Like Kandahar, I don't care what they wanted 200 some odd years ago.. A fairly large number of people essentially live in poverty and without the aid of a state, even though they pay taxes.. They also hav no say in the law and no representation..

    I don't need google to make the statement.. 'I think it is lame that D.C. is not a state.. ' You on other hand are lame for telling me to use google!!

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