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    Re: New states?

    Why can't we give DC representation the same to that of the states in congress but still have it be a non-state? Constitutional amendment?

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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I am largely ignorant about the overall health of the examples that you gave. I would not want a area that would be problematic to joins the United States simply because the people of that area wanted to. I believe if any states are added it needs to have a clear benefit to all involved.
    That's more a discussion of annexation. In this issue, we are talking about allowing US territories to become states if they so desire.

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    Re: New states?

    If any territory wishes to become a state then they have to petition Congress to be one. If they agree then they (Congress) must pass an Enableing Act. Then they (the territory) have to draw up a State Constitution and submit it to the people of that territory to be voted on. If it passes then it must be sent to Congress for approval. If they approve then it is sent to the President to be signed. After which he must make a public declaration of acceptance.

    I would imagine that this would include DC. But considering everything...doubt that Congress would approve of DC becoming a state.
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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by CarlF View Post
    Why can't we give DC representation the same to that of the states in congress but still have it be a non-state? Constitutional amendment?
    There's also taxation issues, and the ability to set our own budget, control our schools, things like that. There's a vast amount of money generated by work in DC that the city sees no part of. If we were a state, we could control our own taxation, and maybe balance the stupid budget.
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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    There's also taxation issues, and the ability to set our own budget, control our schools, things like that. There's a vast amount of money generated by work in DC that the city sees no part of. If we were a state, we could control our own taxation, and maybe balance the stupid budget.
    Yeah, I suppose. It should really be a state. I think the fact that it's so small distinguishes it from other states and wouldn't make it look like one state was more important than another, which I'm pretty sure is why they put the capital in a non-state in the first place.

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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    A lot of people move to New York, too. Should New York City have no Congressmen?

    Even if "a majority" move into Washington for the government, there is still the matter of those who were born there and live there with no connection to working for the government. Shouldn't these people have the same rights as everybody else?
    This counter is also false. NYC wasn't created specifically to have a separate area set aside for the federal government with special rules. Now if NYC was the national capital and create for that purpose, then those who moved there should understand the consequences of living there.

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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Can I quote you guys on that in support of DC statehood? Cuz we really need it.
    Washington DC is a special case, and was never intended to be a state.
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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    That's more a discussion of annexation. In this issue, we are talking about allowing US territories to become states if they so desire.
    I do not see why my comment does not apply to both. Just because they are currently US territories does not mean by them joining in statehood that it would be beneficial to the nation.

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    Re: New states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I do not see why my comment does not apply to both. Just because they are currently US territories does not mean by them joining in statehood that it would be beneficial to the nation.
    Well, put it this way - we either lose strategic territory in the pacific, or let them become a state (say Guam, Virgin Islands) not saying that we need to make the minor lying islands into states, since I don't even think they are populated, but if any of our regular territories want to become full states there is nothing wrong with that over them simply becoming independent.

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    Re: New states?

    We might as well. Obama already seems to think we have 57 states.

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