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  • Democracy/republic

    31 67.39%
  • Monarchy (constitutional/absolute)

    2 4.35%
  • Theocracy

    2 4.35%
  • Anarchy

    7 15.22%
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    Favorite/best form of government?

    Call me old fashioned, whatever, but I gotta serious soft spot for monarchy/royalty, constitutional of course.

    I enjoy the ceremonial glamor, honor, tradition, etc. A monarch exudes more strength, and inspires more pride from me, then an elected head of state does. Serving one seems cooler than serving say....Obama.

    The British government model seems pretty perfect to me.

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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by (R)IGHTeous 1 View Post
    Call me old fashioned, whatever, but I gotta serious soft spot for monarchy/royalty, constitutional of course.

    I enjoy the ceremonial glamor, honor, tradition, etc. A monarch exudes more strength, and inspires more pride from me, then an elected head of state does. Serving one seems cooler than serving say....Obama.

    The British government model seems pretty perfect to me.

    Yall?
    As the UK and many other countries have shown, a constitutional monarchy and democracy are not mutually exclusive.

    That being said, I hate the idea of serving any single titular head of state. The President serves the people, not the other way around, as should a good monarch.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    As the UK and many other countries have shown, a constitutional monarchy and democracy are not mutually exclusive.

    That being said, I hate the idea of serving any single titular head of state. The President serves the people, not the other way around, as should a good monarch.
    I believe Elizabeth serves her people fine. Hell, Obama seems FAR more power hungry and power drunk than she does.....
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    I say a republic. Unless I get to be in charge, in which case, I choose dictatorship
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by (R)IGHTeous 1 View Post
    I believe Elizabeth serves her people fine. Hell, Obama seems FAR more power hungry and power drunk than she does.....
    1) I was merely objecting to your use of the word "serve" in the OP. None of us serve Obama. We are not his servants. Neither do British citizens and commonwealth citizens "serve" Queen Elizabeth.

    2) It's a pretty ****ty comparison with Elizabeth. Her role is, by nature, limited by the British Constitution (hence the phrase "constitutional monarchy"). Her role as head of state is pretty much titular/symbolic and not much else. You're much better off comparing Obama to Gordon Brown or David Cameron.
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    DAMMIT. Forgot to make the votes public.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    I say a republic. Unless I get to be in charge, in which case, I choose dictatorship
    So basically you're Caesar.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by (R)IGHTeous 1 View Post
    Call me old fashioned, whatever, but I gotta serious soft spot for monarchy/royalty, constitutional of course.

    I enjoy the ceremonial glamor, honor, tradition, etc. A monarch exudes more strength, and inspires more pride from me, then an elected head of state does. Serving one seems cooler than serving say....Obama.

    The British government model seems pretty perfect to me.

    Yall?
    I prefer Democracy/republic. I do not like monarchies, the idea of being ruled by some rich inbred piece of **** who thinks it is their god given birth right to rule over me and be the biggest welfare recipients in the country does not sound appealing.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    1) I was merely objecting to your use of the word "serve" in the OP. None of us serve Obama. We are not his servants. Neither to British citizens and commonwealth citizens "serve" Queen Elizabeth.

    2) It's a pretty ****ty comparison with Elizabeth. Her role is, by nature, limited by the British Constitution (hence the phrase "constitutional monarchy"). You're much better off comparing Obama to Gordon Brown or David Cameron.
    I was just saying that Elizabeth does indeed serve her people too. She represents Britain well on the world stage. The way Obama governs....sure looks like he wants us to serve him, or the federal government, but ok.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    The most efficient form of government is a benevolent dictatorship.
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