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  • Democracy/republic

    31 67.39%
  • Monarchy (constitutional/absolute)

    2 4.35%
  • Theocracy

    2 4.35%
  • Anarchy

    7 15.22%
  • Other (explain in post)

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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by (R)IGHTeous 1 View Post
    Call me old fashioned, whatever, but I gotta serious soft spot for monarchy/royalty, constitutional of course.

    I enjoy the ceremonial glamor, honor, tradition, etc. A monarch exudes more strength, and inspires more pride from me, then an elected head of state does. Serving one seems cooler than serving say....Obama.

    The British government model seems pretty perfect to me.

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    Glamour, honor, tradition... maybe you'd like being a Catholic.

    Check out Benedict rocking his prada hush puppies.


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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by NGNM85 View Post
    I really don't think we have to wait for some kind of 'Singularity'-type event. I think virtually all the prequisites already exist. At the very least, we are clearly capable of something more humane and equitable than the status quo.
    Most people think they have to have a federal government functioning like babysitter to keep them from going savage on each other. Try telling a Conservative that they are socially and psychologically dependent on unnecessary big government, it's a funny conversation.

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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Most people think they have to have a federal government functioning like babysitter to keep them from going savage on each other. Try telling a Conservative that they are socially and psychologically dependent on unnecessary big government, it's a funny conversation.
    It very much like discussing morality with devout Christians. They simply cannot accept the idea of moral behavior that is not guided by scripture. They'll ask me, in complete seriousness; 'Well, why don't you just go around killing people?' They're being completely genuine. It's just incomprehensible to them.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by (R)IGHTeous 1 View Post
    Call me old fashioned, whatever, but I gotta serious soft spot for monarchy/royalty, constitutional of course.

    I enjoy the ceremonial glamor, honor, tradition, etc. A monarch exudes more strength, and inspires more pride from me, then an elected head of state does. Serving one seems cooler than serving say....Obama.

    The British government model seems pretty perfect to me.

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    I hate the idea of spending money on a useless figurehead just so there can be tradition.

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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by (R)IGHTeous 1 View Post
    Call me old fashioned, whatever, but I gotta serious soft spot for monarchy/royalty, constitutional of course.

    I enjoy the ceremonial glamor, honor, tradition, etc. A monarch exudes more strength, and inspires more pride from me, then an elected head of state does. Serving one seems cooler than serving say....Obama.

    The British government model seems pretty perfect to me.

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    I prefer our form of Government - Republic. But our current version has been bastardized and mishapen.

    I don't think that pomp and pagentry should be an intricate part of governance - that can be obtained via non political means quite easily.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    I can't really see this being a lasting form of government on a global scale. It would require an almost inhuman amount of tacit consent to something really intangible...and ultimately some brute enforcement.
    Like I said, I just really don't find this very pursuasive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    Not at all surprised that the historical examples are on a very small scale, short term, in a backdrop of general social disorganization and unrest.
    The Anarchist federation in revolutionary Spain encompassed hundreds of thousands of individuals, over a period of years, in a fairly modern, sophisticated society. It ultimately collapsed, however, I don't see that this can rightfully described as a failure, as it occurred not because of some lack of planning or organization, but, rather, internal strife on the part of Communist groups in thrall to Moscow, and, more importantly, a takeover by Franco's fascists, backed by Hitler's Wehrmacht. Also, when criticisizing the lack of alternative models, or stable alternative models, one must acknowledge that both of the superpowers spent about half a century, and considerable resources, to destroy alternative models, by any means necessary. On the Soviet side, this included brutal internal repression, the dismantling of the Soviets, Krondstadt, etc. In the case of the United States; Vietnam, Chile, Nicaragua, Guatemala, etc. This continues today, with regards to Cuba, or Venezuela, for example. 'Successful defiance' must be undermined at all costs.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Democratic republic where freedom is legal. I wish we had such a government.

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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    I hate royalty and religion so theocracy and monarchy are out. I would like to leave my apartment without a group of punks robbing my apartment so I will vote for Republic.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Highway View Post
    I would like to leave my apartment without a group of punks robbing my apartment so I will vote for Republic.
    You do live in a nation-state, which is a republic; and there is no guaruntee your apartment won't be robbed. Theft can occur within or without a nation-state. There's no fundamental connection.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by NGNM85 View Post
    I don't see how anyone could definitively say this. Where is the historical evidence to verify this contention? That's possible; but I think people display a confidence in such assertions that isn't necessarily warranted.
    The evidence is in the Soviet Union and all the other places that tried and failed to institute pure Communism. It's just too unstable, and too vulnerable to someone seizing power.

    Also, just wondering, how come you identify as a Libertarian if you favor anarcho-syndicalism? Libertarianism is on the opposite side of the economic spectrum.
    For: legalizing drugs, gay marriage, abortion, guns, universal health care, public sector jobs, nuclear power, free education, progressive taxation
    Against: corporations, make-work, the 40 hour work week, intellectual property, imperialism, "homeland security," censorship

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