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  • Monarchy (constitutional/absolute)

    2 4.35%
  • Theocracy

    2 4.35%
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by NGNM85 View Post
    Agreed.



    That depends on what you mean by 'feasible.' If you mean in an immediate sense; I'd have to agree. If you mean that human nature is too savage, etc., so as to preclude the possibility of such a society, I think that's just nonsense.
    Essentially what you said. At the point where technology has advanced enough to grant everyone's wants with a snap of the fingers, anarchism won't just be possible, it will be inevitable. We haven't reached that point yet, though.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    Essentially what you said. At the point where technology has advanced enough to grant everyone's wants with a snap of the fingers, anarchism won't just be possible, it will be inevitable. We haven't reached that point yet, though.
    I really don't think we have to wait for some kind of 'Singularity'-type event. I think virtually all the prequisites already exist. At the very least, we are clearly capable of something more humane and equitable than the status quo.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by NGNM85 View Post
    I really don't think we have to wait for some kind of 'Singularity'-type event. I think virtually all the prequisites already exist. At the very least, we are clearly capable of something more humane and equitable than the status quo.
    Well yeah, but that's not really saying very much. I don't think we're quite advanced enough yet. The problem is, our current society is extremely interdependent. You need people growing food where it's possible to grow it, people to put it on trucks and trains and ships, people to make the trucks and planes and ships, etc etc. Anarcho-syndicalism works great on a small scale, but it falls apart if you try to scale it up.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Pretty much any government that is strong and brings justice and prosperity to the region it governs (while maintaining honorable relationships with its neighbors and allies) is fine by me.

    That's less about form of government as good spirit, energy, and self-control. Perverseness, apathy, and lack of discipline can pervert the function and purpose of all political systems.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Constitutional Monarchy just seems ideal to me. Marriage of democracy and monarchy. Been working quite well in Britain, Spain, Japan, etc.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    Well yeah, but that's not really saying very much. I don't think we're quite advanced enough yet. The problem is, our current society is extremely interdependent. You need people growing food where it's possible to grow it, people to put it on trucks and trains and ships, people to make the trucks and planes and ships, etc etc. Anarcho-syndicalism works great on a small scale, but it falls apart if you try to scale it up.
    I don't see how anyone could definitively say this. Where is the historical evidence to verify this contention? That's possible; but I think people display a confidence in such assertions that isn't necessarily warranted.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    I like my constitutional monarchy, but I'd prefer a dictator instead of a monarch, choose the best leader, give 'em head of state status for life, and have all the benefits without an inbred twat on the back of my coins.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    I can't really see this being a lasting form of government on a global scale. It would require an almost inhuman amount of tacit consent to something really intangible...and ultimately some brute enforcement. Not at all surprised that the historical examples are on a very small scale, short term, in a backdrop of general social disorganization and unrest.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I like royal families too. There is a certain appeal and flashy celebrityness to them.

    I'm also glad the US DOESN'T have a royal family.
    I don't think it's good to put their children in that position all the time, and for them to not have normal lives and for generations... What's the point? It's sad and it's for the sake of the OP's entertainment.. that isn't a good enough reason to give people that much false power and award it through a birth right.

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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    It seems that they have inherited considerable wealth from their ancestors, or are engaged in their own commercial enterprises.
    So in other words the royal family today are descendants of the biggest welfare recipients in history.
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