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    31 67.39%
  • Monarchy (constitutional/absolute)

    2 4.35%
  • Theocracy

    2 4.35%
  • Anarchy

    7 15.22%
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by (R)IGHTeous 1 View Post
    That aint entirely fair man. The British royal family brings in many millions in revenue. The royal wedding brought in much. They help pay their way too.
    How did they get that money in the first place in order to be able to bring in millions in revenue?
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by (R)IGHTeous 1 View Post
    I already gave you more. Them both reaping the benefits of public tax dollars. I can go on if ya want.....
    The Royal family are essentially figureheads. The President is essentially elected to serve the people and GOVERN.

    Hence, apples and oranges comparison.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How did they get that money in the first place in order to be able to bring in millions in revenue?
    It seems that they have inherited considerable wealth from their ancestors, or are engaged in their own commercial enterprises.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    Powers of the President: Veto, executive order, appointing the various secretaries, commander-in-chief of the military, authority to launch nuclear weapons, etc etc. Powers of the Queen of England: Mall openings, playing polo, throwing fancy parties. Get it?
    I've laid out some similarities which I believe make my point. The royal family also retains some military authority btw. My original point was that Elizabeth too serves her people. That there ARE some big smiliarities betweemn democracy and constitutional moanrchy.

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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How did they get that money in the first place in order to be able to bring in millions in revenue?
    Do the research sb just did, you can anwer your own question. It aint a one way street man.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    Powers of the President: Veto, executive order, appointing the various secretaries, commander-in-chief of the military, authority to launch nuclear weapons, etc etc. Powers of the Queen of England: Mall openings, playing polo, throwing fancy parties. Get it?
    The royal family do have some official powers though. Dissolving parliament, accepting ministerial appointments, etc.

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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Last edited by NGNM85; 07-04-11 at 03:00 AM.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    I would say that's the ideal form for a society, but it's not really feasible.
    For: legalizing drugs, gay marriage, abortion, guns, universal health care, public sector jobs, nuclear power, free education, progressive taxation
    Against: corporations, make-work, the 40 hour work week, intellectual property, imperialism, "homeland security," censorship

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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    I like the idea of the city-state, like in ancient Greece. I also like the rule of law, not the rule of individuals. I also hate complicated and tangled laws, they must be plain and simple, so everyone can learn, understand and comply with them. I also believe that one must operate with what one has locally. For example, it's madness to transport salad 1000 miles if you can grow it a mile away.

    So you see, I'm not fond of empires and big countries of centralized power.

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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    I would say that's the ideal form for a society,...
    Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    ...but it's not really feasible.
    That depends on what you mean by 'feasible.' If you mean in an immediate sense; I'd have to agree. If you mean that human nature is too savage, etc., so as to preclude the possibility of such a society, I think that's just nonsense.
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