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  • Democracy/republic

    31 67.39%
  • Monarchy (constitutional/absolute)

    2 4.35%
  • Theocracy

    2 4.35%
  • Anarchy

    7 15.22%
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by (R)IGHTeous 1 View Post
    LOL dude your comment is so flawed. Obama was elected as a celebrity pop star too. Our tax dollars go to fund the federal government, WHICH HE HEADS. Him and his family reap the benefits of our tax dollars one way or another.

    Alotta gray area here....
    I'm sorry. You're continued comparison of Obama to Queen Elizabeth is what's flawed.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Anyway, responding to the OP, I prefer a democratic republic, but with a different separation of powers than we currently have. A single ruler can always be better than a group, but he can also be worse as well. Have the president write the laws, and then give veto power to a congress. That uses the best attributes of both systems.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm sorry. You're continued comparison of Obama to Queen Elizabeth is what's flawed.
    They're both heads of state. You also have yet to really explain how it's flawed. Another similiarity is that Obama's executrive powers are also limited by our own constitution.

    Your apology is accepted tho lol. Try again man.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by (R)IGHTeous 1 View Post
    LOL dude your comment is so flawed. Obama was elected as a celebrity pop star too. Our tax dollars go to fund the federal government, WHICH HE HEADS. Him and his family reap the benefits of our tax dollars one way or another.

    Alotta gray area here....

    No, there's really not.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Not that much. The queen & royal family have a very large personal forture, a lot of it from the crown dependencies.
    Thanks for this. I did a little research and it seems to be true that the Royal family gives out a lot more than it takes in.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by (R)IGHTeous 1 View Post
    They're both heads of state. You also have yet to really explain how it's flawed. Another similiarity is that Obama's executrive powers are also limited by our own constitution.

    Your apology is accepted tho lol. Try again man.
    That's about where the similarities end.

    Queen - Ruler through blood. President - elected by the people.

    Queen - titular head of state, no real powers. President - elected to govern, possesses executive powers.

    Should I go on?
    Last edited by StillBallin75; 07-04-11 at 02:20 AM.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post

    No, there's really not.
    Lotta bluster there man. Explain how there aint, cuz I'm proving there is. That graphic helps your argument little.....
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Thanks for this. I did a little research and it seems to be true that the Royal family gives out a lot more than it takes in.
    See? They aint so bad.
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    That's about where the similarities end.
    I already gave you more. Them both reaping the benefits of public tax dollars. I can go on if ya want.....
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    Re: Favorite/best form of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by (R)IGHTeous 1 View Post
    Lotta bluster there man. Explain how there aint, cuz I'm proving there is. That graphic helps your argument little.....
    Powers of the President: Veto, executive order, appointing the various secretaries, commander-in-chief of the military, authority to launch nuclear weapons, etc etc. Powers of the Queen of England: Mall openings, playing polo, throwing fancy parties. Get it?
    For: legalizing drugs, gay marriage, abortion, guns, universal health care, public sector jobs, nuclear power, free education, progressive taxation
    Against: corporations, make-work, the 40 hour work week, intellectual property, imperialism, "homeland security," censorship

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