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  • States should be able to take a vote and secede if they wish

    23 53.49%
  • Secession should not be an option

    11 25.58%
  • With qualifiers (those being)

    5 11.63%
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    4 9.30%
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Thread: Should states have the right to secede?

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    Re: Should states have the right to secede?

    The only way a state should be able to secede is if they can beat the US military in a revolt against our government. Good luck with that.
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    Re: Should states have the right to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I don't understand why people still cling to the compact theory. Its validity died out with the Confederacy. The United States of America are and shall remain undivided. What's that saying divide and conquer? Well, if we divide, we'll easily be conquered.

    If there are grievances or differences, they can be resolved; thats the entire purpose of the USA as it is. To compromise, and progress towards a more perfect Union.
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    Re: Should states have the right to secede?

    what if a state wants out, but the neighboring states desperately rely on them for services, jobs, workers, fuel, resources, etc etc.???

    Staten Island wanted to leave NYC. Well, the only way that can happen is if they pass a referendum...AND the State Legislature says ok.

    that's how it should work. sorry Dixie.

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    Re: Should states have the right to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    what if a state wants out, but the neighboring states desperately rely on them for services, jobs, workers, fuel, resources, etc etc.???
    Why does independence mean that you cant work/trade across borders? This is the norm across the world.

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    Re: Should states have the right to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The only way a state should be able to secede is if they can beat the US military in a revolt against our government. Good luck with that.
    Why is it that people don't want to fight people that want to kill us but at the same time want to kill people that just don't want to be part of the union anymore and want no harm to come to anyone? If anyone has an answer I will listen.

    Why not just let them leave and help them get started as a country instead?
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    Re: Should states have the right to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why is it that people don't want to fight people that want to kill us but at the same time want to kill people that just don't want to be part of the union anymore and want no harm to come to anyone? If anyone has an answer I will listen.

    Why not just let them leave and help them get started as a country instead?
    Find some land that doesn't belong to this country, or any other country and they can do that.
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    Re: Should states have the right to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Find some land that doesn't belong to this country, or any other country and they can do that.
    Which question is that answering?

    We are a nation of nations. The land of the state owns to the state first. The federal government just has a select amount of governing power granted to them by the union. It doesn't have any sort of ownership of the land.
    Last edited by Henrin; 07-04-11 at 09:42 PM.

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    Re: Should states have the right to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    much of the Republics of the USSR was already part of the Russian Empire, which was consolidated by the power of the gun and the cannon.

    and anyway, did the Republics of the USSR have democratic and elected state legislatures that ALL ratified becoming part of the Soviet Union?

    no, no they did not.
    And your point is?

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    Re: Should states have the right to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    And your point is?
    The Constitution of the United States of America was ratified by the democratically-elected legislatures of the 13 Colonies, was it not?

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    Re: Should states have the right to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The only way a state should be able to secede is if they can beat the US military in a revolt against our government. Good luck with that.
    One state maybe, but my guess is that if all of the old confederate states said, "we're out of here", the rest of the states would not have the stomach to do a damn thing militarily.

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