View Poll Results: Where do you land?

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  • I am wealthy, and favor tax hikes for the wealthy

    9 10.34%
  • I am not wealthy, and favor tax hikes for the wealthy

    32 36.78%
  • I am wealthy, and against tax hikes for the wealthy

    0 0%
  • I am not wealthy, and against tax hikes for the wealthy

    34 39.08%
  • Other

    12 13.79%
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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Bill Clinton is right.
    I agree. The concept of NO tax raises is unrealistic and the Republican's know it. NO TAX hikes is simply a people-pleaser meant to rally favor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
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    That said, the flat tax is the only thing that can qualify as "equality". Anything else is just jiberish. Imho.
    Whether you are wealthy or poor, you have to pay your fair share. If you don't, you are subjected to persecution.
    I also agree with this, ideally. The rich shouldn't be taxed simply because they are rich. However, business owners and people who have shares and the like in a large business or profiting organization are different I think. A huge corporation or business does not equal one person, just as the House of Representatives does not function of the One Vote for One State principle. If you are simply rich, no I don't think they should be taxed, but if you are a considerably large business or something, yeah, I think your taxes would naturally rise proportionately.

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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    So much talk about how the wealthy deserve this, and the rich need that. Where do you fall in all this?
    I am not wealthy, and against tax hikes for the wealthy.To be fair I am against tax hikes for every income bracket because the more money you give the government the more they will waste it.
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    Re: Where do you land

    I am fairly wealthy. I am in favor of significant tax increases to pay down the debt (and God help the Hollywood types or ANYONE that earns their income in the US and runs and hides it in other places). Im in favor of a specific and targeted plan to cut spending and pay down the debt with the tax increases sundowned within a set time limit. Im also VERY MUCH in favor of gutting social services and limiting them (payable ONLY at the state level) to thse TRULY in need and VERY MUCH in favor of promoting personal responsiblity so there are less parasites on the system.

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    Re: Where do you land

    On a federal level, you bet I think it's time the wealthiest 1% pony up their share. For decades, these are the people who have literally bought their tax loopholes and favorable tax breaks by bribing congress with campaign contributions in return for favorable legislation. They pay a fraction of the percentage of gross income that the middleclass pays, because they can use these breaks and loopholes to get their taxable income down to a pittance.

    Do I resent hell out of the fact that these people have the government in their very deep pockets? Oh, you bet I do.

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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    On a federal level, you bet I think it's time the wealthiest 1% pony up their share. For decades, these are the people who have literally bought their tax loopholes and favorable tax breaks by bribing congress with campaign contributions in return for favorable legislation. They pay a fraction of the percentage of gross income that the middleclass pays, because they can use these breaks and loopholes to get their taxable income down to a pittance.

    Do I resent hell out of the fact that these people have the government in their very deep pockets? Oh, you bet I do.
    Other than the usual rhetoric, can you cite examples of wealthy individuals bribing congressmen (sounds like a tax if ya ask me) to avoid paying which taxes? And what exactly does 'their fair share' mean? Are you willing to discuss a flat tax...no loopholes, no writeoffs and across the board for individuals? Cuz...Game on!

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    Re: Where do you land

    Define wealthy? I'm well off but I wouldn't say "wealthy".
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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    So much talk about how the wealthy deserve this, and the rich need that. Where do you fall in all this?
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    I'm not in favor of using the tax system and income of individuals, as a political tool to divide people.
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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    What happens to the wealthy tax base when states implement a massive tax hike on the wealthy? It disappears. They move.
    Yep, that's a very good rationale for a small government approach...at the state level. But whereas (I'm assuming) you see that as a model for the federal government to emulate, I see it as a good reason for a stronger federal government, to make up for the relative dearth of spending that inevitably will occur at the state level. It's harder to move to another country than to move to another state, and most people have no desire to do so even if they're paying more taxes in this country than elsewhere.

    To answer the poll question: Yes, I support higher taxes on the wealthy. It's not a matter of "class warfare," it's a matter of the federal government being able to pay its bills. And it makes more sense to tax people who actually HAVE money to tax, than to tax people who don't.
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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'm not wealthy. I am against tax hikes for the wealthy. Why should we forcibly restrict their financial freedoms to pay for a failing and foolish budget?
    So we don't have to add even more stress to the working class via alternative methods of revenue. The money is either going to come out of the pockets of the rich or off of the dinner tables of the poor. If we can solve the debt problem without doing either, I'm all for that. But this isn't realistic as defense/military spending cuts seem to be off the table entirely. If I had the choice of wether to raise taxes so that the rich have 4% less spending money or to cut social programs for people who are already just barely getting by, I would leave the social programs.
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    Re: Where do you land

    I'm for a flat tax above a certain amount (however much it takes to 'live comfortably') and a progressive tax below that.
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