View Poll Results: Where do you land?

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  • I am wealthy, and favor tax hikes for the wealthy

    9 10.34%
  • I am not wealthy, and favor tax hikes for the wealthy

    32 36.78%
  • I am wealthy, and against tax hikes for the wealthy

    0 0%
  • I am not wealthy, and against tax hikes for the wealthy

    34 39.08%
  • Other

    12 13.79%
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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    If we already tax them the most and its not making things better, why do we think taxing them more will work?

    I'm not rich by any definition, and certainly not wealthy. I just like tax cuts for everyone. Except for left handed people. It's part of my master plan to make them no more than a passing interest in history books.
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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    If we already tax them the most and its not making things better, why do we think taxing them more will work?

    I'm not rich by any definition, and certainly not wealthy. I just like tax cuts for everyone. Except for left handed people. It's part of my master plan to make them no more than a passing interest in history books.
    That's it! It's time for a lefty revolt!! *grabs guns and armor*
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    Re: Where do you land

    I put other, I dont consider myself wealthy by my standards of what wealthy is...but I am comfortable and need for nothing. I was always the type of person that was against any kind of class warfare and I had no envy of the rich. I am a working class guy that came from very humble working class parents...I made some right choices and worked hard and made it to where I am. HAVING SAID THAT. My attitude has entirely changed by the teaparty and their OBVIOUS assault on the working class and THEIR classwarfare on public workers.
    Its the far right in the republican party that wants and IS raising taxs on the middle class while they whine that they need a tax cut....Ive heard enough of their bull**** and I am utterly totally and completely against them and their BIG LIE about Oh if we dont pay any taxs and have no regulations so we can screw our workers lots more we will create MILLIONS of jobs...Honest injun....really...cross my heart and I REALLY MEAN IT.....pfffffffffffffft

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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    If we already tax them the most and its not making things better, why do we think taxing them more will work?

    I'm not rich by any definition, and certainly not wealthy. I just like tax cuts for everyone. Except for left handed people. It's part of my master plan to make them no more than a passing interest in history books.
    Actually, before we lowered taxes, the economy was moving along quite smoothly. We had a brief recession post 9/11 - but would've been fine with the rates the way they were before Bush came into office. The vast majority of our debt is due to wartime expenditures and the Bush tax cuts.

    Our tax to GDP ratio is lower than anytime since Truman was in office. Our taxes are far from being too high.

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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Actually, before we lowered taxes, the economy was moving along quite smoothly. We had a brief recession post 9/11 - but would've been fine with the rates the way they were before Bush came into office. The vast majority of our debt is due to wartime expenditures and the Bush tax cuts.

    Our tax to GDP ratio is lower than anytime since Truman was in office. Our taxes are far from being too high.
    any moron can see it was the increase in government spending that caused the economy to tank.
    bush increased the budget by $700 billion. wanna guess how much obama has outspent bush?
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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I put other, I dont consider myself wealthy by my standards of what wealthy is...but I am comfortable and need for nothing. I was always the type of person that was against any kind of class warfare and I had no envy of the rich. I am a working class guy that came from very humble working class parents...I made some right choices and worked hard and made it to where I am. HAVING SAID THAT. My attitude has entirely changed by the teaparty and their OBVIOUS assault on the working class and THEIR classwarfare on public workers.
    Its the far right in the republican party that wants and IS raising taxs on the middle class while they whine that they need a tax cut....Ive heard enough of their bull**** and I am utterly totally and completely against them and their BIG LIE about Oh if we dont pay any taxs and have no regulations so we can screw our workers lots more we will create MILLIONS of jobs...Honest injun....really...cross my heart and I REALLY MEAN IT.....pfffffffffffffft
    Its people like you that have the Republicans nervous.

    I haven't seen lifelong Republicans jumping ship in such an angry, absolute fashion in my entire life.

    Is there anything the current party could realistically do to get you to change your mind? I'm sincerely interested.
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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Its people like you that have the Republicans nervous.

    I haven't seen lifelong Republicans jumping ship in such an angry, absolute fashion in my entire life.

    Is there anything the current party could realistically do to get you to change your mind? I'm sincerely interested.

    They have to stop the assault on the working class foremost the fat pigs like christie that has never done a days work in his life...and walker and scott and kasich giving huge tax breaks to the rich and corporations and then verbally ripping the working class to shreds and then trying to strip them of every dime they can...and give it to the rich..
    Its not the democrats or liberals waging class warfare its fully the teaparty far right....Ill come back when the far right has been stifled and I intend to do whatever I can to make that happen...they are greedy lieing ****bags...

    If im the only republican that you believe feels the way I do and as strongly....then you have to be living in a very closed world....
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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Let 'em go. It's not like they're contributing. I refuse to respond to fear tactics.


    I don't think you've thought this through.

    They ARE contributing. They don't just sit on that money, they INVEST it. That means it is available for capital or loans, to expand businesses and start new ones, thereby creating more jobs (and preserving existing ones).

    If they take their money to another state, or to another country (an island republic, or one of those little countries with no income tax), and we lose out on the capital investment they represent.... then yeah, we're going to have problems. That wealth is no longer going to be there to use to create MORE prosperity, as in for you and me.

    I don't know where people get the idea that a man worth 400 million dollars, simply has a stack of money that he's sitting on, hoarding it, and it isn't doing anything. I know a number of wealthy people, though I'm working-poor myself, and none of them do that. They own businesses (that employ people!), they INVEST in businesses (that EMPLOY people!!), they buy stock in businesses (that EMPLOY people!!!), etc.

    Why do businesses sell stock? To increase capital so they can do more biz, which often means hiring more people.

    When you lose the wealthy, you're hurting your own economy, and everybody down to the dirt-farmer and the ditch-digger.

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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    If the Tea Party freshman really wanted to make a statement about government spending, the first thing they should've done was cut their own salaries and make them equal to the median salary in the country - but they didn't do that, did they? Because they are only against government spending that doesn't go into their own pockets (like Bachmann and all of her government-sponsored income).
    That's already happened in the House of Representatives - January 2011. Seems you made an assumption....

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    Latest Title: Reducing the amount authorized for salaries and expenses of Member, committee, and leadership offices in 2011 and 2012.
    Sponsor: Rep Walden, Greg [OR-2] (introduced 1/6/2011)

    SECTION 1. REDUCTION IN MEMBERS' REPRESENTATIONAL ALLOWANCE.

    (a) Allowances Adopted in 2011 and 2012- The amount of any Members' Representational Allowance established in accordance with section 101 of the House of Representatives Administrative Reform Technical Corrections Act (2 U.S.C. 57b) for 2011 or 2012 may not exceed 95 percent of the amount of the Allowance so established for 2010.

    (b) Interim Reduction Pending Adoption of New Allowance- Until a Members' Representational Allowance is established in accordance with section 101 of the House of Representatives Administrative Reform Technical Corrections Act (2 U.S.C. 57b) for 2011, the amount of such Allowance, as in effect on the date of the adoption of this resolution, is reduced by 5 percent.

    SEC. 2. REDUCTION IN AMOUNT AUTHORIZED FOR SALARIES AND EXPENSES OF HOUSE LEADERSHIP OFFICES IN 2011 AND 2012.

    (a) Reduction- The head of any House leadership office may not authorize the disbursement of any amounts appropriated for salaries and expenses of such office during calendar year 2011 or fiscal year 2012 at a rate exceeding 95 percent of the rate provided for such salaries and expenses for fiscal year 2010.

    (b) Definition- In this section, a `House leadership office' is any office whose salaries and expenses were appropriated for fiscal year 2010 under the heading `House leadership offices' in the Legislative Branch Appropriations Act, 2010.

    SEC. 3. REDUCTION IN AMOUNT AUTHORIZED FOR EXPENSES OF COMMITTEES IN 2011 AND 2012.

    (a) Primary Expense Resolutions- The aggregate amount authorized for expenses of committees of the House of Representatives for 2011 and 2012 under primary expense resolutions adopted by the House under clause 6 of rule X of the Rules of the House of Representatives may not exceed 95 percent of the aggregate amount provided for expenses of committees under such resolutions for 2009 and 2010.

    (b) Interim Funding Pending Adoption of Primary Expense Resolutions- Notwithstanding paragraph (c) of clause 7 of rule X of the Rules of the House of Representatives, each committee described in paragraph (a) of such clause shall be entitled for each month during the period specified in paragraph (a) of such clause to 95 percent of the amount otherwise determined under paragraph (c) of such clause.

    SEC. 4. REDUCTION IN AMOUNT AUTHORIZED FOR SALARIES AND EXPENSES OF COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS IN 2011 AND 2012.

    The chair of the Committee on Appropriations may not authorize the disbursement of any amounts appropriated for salaries and expenses of the Committee during fiscal year 2011 or fiscal year 2012 at a rate exceeding 91 percent of the rate provided for such salaries and expenses for fiscal year 2010.
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    Re: Where do you land

    As much as it sucks, I believe eventually we will all need tax hikes, at least to Clinton era rates. However, I believe it should be slowly done over a 8-12 year period starting with a new tax bracket on the billionaire, then millionaire, then go down to 250K and above, then the upper middle class, middle class, working class, and then poor. However I am also in favor of "regressive" social security taxes meaning the more you make the less you have to pay. So if the billionaire is paying 40% of his earnings federally, he is paying 5% or less into social security. If the poor is paying 10% of his earnings and I think and I think should only get a certain percentage back at the end of the year and it SHOULD NOT get ANY back for state and local taxes he should also pay much more into Social Security as a percentage than a billionaire.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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