View Poll Results: Where do you land?

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  • I am wealthy, and favor tax hikes for the wealthy

    9 10.34%
  • I am not wealthy, and favor tax hikes for the wealthy

    32 36.78%
  • I am wealthy, and against tax hikes for the wealthy

    0 0%
  • I am not wealthy, and against tax hikes for the wealthy

    34 39.08%
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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    What happens to the wealthy tax base when states implement a massive tax hike on the wealthy? It disappears. They move.
    Let them move. At least then the political parties won't have class warfare to count on when discussing financial policies. We shouldn't have to pick sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'm not wealthy. I am against tax hikes for the wealthy. Why should we forcibly restrict their financial freedoms to pay for a failing and foolish budget?
    Why should the none wealthy lose the medicare and soc they are dependent on? Increasing revenue to balance the budget shouldn't be all about cutting middle class programs. The burden should be shared. Greece raised taxes on their populace, and they are in worse shape then we are. Sometimes tax increases are practical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    That's it! It's time for a lefty revolt!! *grabs guns and armor*
    You don't know who leftist really are. I'll give you a hint, the ones in the streets of Greece are demanding less government than you.

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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I don't think you've thought this through.

    They ARE contributing. They don't just sit on that money, they INVEST it. That means it is available for capital or loans, to expand businesses and start new ones, thereby creating more jobs (and preserving existing ones).

    If they take their money to another state, or to another country (an island republic, or one of those little countries with no income tax), and we lose out on the capital investment they represent.... then yeah, we're going to have problems. That wealth is no longer going to be there to use to create MORE prosperity, as in for you and me.

    I don't know where people get the idea that a man worth 400 million dollars, simply has a stack of money that he's sitting on, hoarding it, and it isn't doing anything. I know a number of wealthy people, though I'm working-poor myself, and none of them do that. They own businesses (that employ people!), they INVEST in businesses (that EMPLOY people!!), they buy stock in businesses (that EMPLOY people!!!), etc.

    Why do businesses sell stock? To increase capital so they can do more biz, which often means hiring more people.

    When you lose the wealthy, you're hurting your own economy, and everybody down to the dirt-farmer and the ditch-digger.
    Nothing is stopping anybody from buying foreign stock. You don't have to live in the country you purchase stock in.

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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'm not wealthy. I am against tax hikes for the wealthy. Why should we forcibly restrict their financial freedoms to pay for a failing and foolish budget?
    I would agree with you if taxing the wealthy had a noticeable affect on their "financial freedoms". Fortunately, it doesn't.

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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    Great! A state, in the red with deficits and gasping for higher revenue will suddenly see an emigrating population, especially among those most able to pay higher taxes. The actual result is not exactly what you had in mind.
    Again [Jedi mind tricks] this is not the thread you seek. You want to start that thread, go start it.

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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    That's it! It's time for a lefty revolt!! *grabs guns and armor*
    Lefty's are already revolting.
    So follow me into the desert
    As desperate as you are
    Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven
    And all the little pigs have God

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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Not a good enough reason to subsidize it. Rather than indirectly trying to get people to change their childbearing behavior through tax incentives (which will be a net negative for the government for at least 18 years), we can bring in more legal immigrants right NOW.
    Well I largely agree, but I think that's the motivation behind the subsidy.
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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    ... and wanted to prevent that. It was more of an oligarchical thinking that created a separation of the classes. That's been around forever.
    I specifically pointed out that was the intention of the early progressives.
    Not modern progressives.

    The early progressives were very much interested in the separation of the classes.
    They were borderline fascists.

    Modern progressives have tempered/discarded the craziness, pseudo science of the early progressives.
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    Re: Where do you land

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I specifically pointed out that was the intention of the early progressives.
    Not modern progressives.

    The early progressives were very much interested in the separation of the classes.
    They were borderline fascists.

    Modern progressives have tempered/discarded the craziness, pseudo science of the early progressives.
    Tell me who you are referring to when you are discussing "early" progressives.
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