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    Will the US end up giving independence to Hawaii?

    Great Britain eventually gave independence to India and other colonies. It makes me wonder if we'll end up doing the same for Hawaii, which used to be a foreign country. I used to live there. There were a lot of people who weren't happy at all with Hawaii's status as part of the United States. If you were a Caucasian person (as I am), many people would automatically resent you over how Hawaii became part of the US. If you read up on the history of it, you'll see that it was a pretty ugly affair. On the other hand, there are benefits to Hawaii for being part of the US. Anyone from there has the right to freely move about the country without any immigration red tape since they're Americans. And exporting goods to the other states is from one state to another instead of being a case of importing.

    However, if you ask people there if Hawaii should be an independent country, you'll find many who say it should. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if sometime in my lifetime Hawaii gets independence. It would likely be a blow to Americans' egos.

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    Re: Will the US end up giving independence to Hawaii?

    No, I've lived in Hawaii. There is little chance that the US will give the entire set of islands up just because some of the natives want independence. The US has all five branches of the military operating on Oahu. Plus, the US is responsible for the education system and infrastructure that most of the major Hawaiian islands now have. The advancement of the islands to get into the 21st Century is due to the US.

    What would be most likely to happen, if any concession is made, is that those who want an independent government will be given one or possibly a couple of the smaller islands to establish a government there. Of course, I doubt this would be an acceptable compromise for those who want independence, so it probably wouldn't actually happen.
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    Re: Will the US end up giving independence to Hawaii?

    Puerto Rico is the same way. They want Independence from the US, just like Quebec wants Independence from Canada.

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    Re: Will the US end up giving independence to Hawaii?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    Puerto Rico is the same way. They want Independence from the US, just like Quebec wants Independence from Canada.
    Evidently not Puerto Rico has held votes for independence and it has been rejected

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    Re: Will the US end up giving independence to Hawaii?

    Quote Originally Posted by snilloctjc View Post
    Evidently not Puerto Rico has held votes for independence and it has been rejected
    as has Quebec (twice) why does independence for Hawaii not enjoy any electoral support?

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    Re: Will the US end up giving independence to Hawaii?

    Technically Hawai'i isn't legally part of the United States, but that isn't recognized by the US obviously.

    I posted the source a while back search my posts you'll find it I'm lazy
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    Re: Will the US end up giving independence to Hawaii?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Great Britain eventually gave independence to India and other colonies. It makes me wonder if we'll end up doing the same for Hawaii, which used to be a foreign country. I used to live there. There were a lot of people who weren't happy at all with Hawaii's status as part of the United States. If you were a Caucasian person (as I am), many people would automatically resent you over how Hawaii became part of the US. If you read up on the history of it, you'll see that it was a pretty ugly affair. On the other hand, there are benefits to Hawaii for being part of the US. Anyone from there has the right to freely move about the country without any immigration red tape since they're Americans. And exporting goods to the other states is from one state to another instead of being a case of importing.

    However, if you ask people there if Hawaii should be an independent country, you'll find many who say it should. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if sometime in my lifetime Hawaii gets independence. It would likely be a blow to Americans' egos.
    There is no way the U.S. will give Hawaii independence.

    Hawaii is too important to the strategic interests of the U.S. military to give independence, since it gives the U.S. Navy an excellent point to move all over the Pacific. With China growing as superpower and developing it's naval power, which threatens Taiwan and Japan and possibly South Korea, our allies in Asia, there's no way we'll give that up.

    Also, while there may be a group that wants independence, I doubt that Hawaii would actually benefit from it. I don't know if Hawaii could sustain itself economically by being independent, and I'm sure that a good percentage of that state's economy comes from federal money spent into it, and I'm also sure that Hawaii receives more federal dollars than they pay in federal taxes.

    At the most, Hawaii may ever get devolved into a protectorate, like Puerto Rico or Guam, but since Hawaii benefits from being a state by getting two Senators and can elect Representatives, something that not even citizens of Washington, D.C., can do, there's not a whole lot of sense in doing so.
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    Re: Will the US end up giving independence to Hawaii?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Technically Hawai'i isn't legally part of the United States, but that isn't recognized by the US obviously.

    I posted the source a while back search my posts you'll find it I'm lazy
    I could be wrong, but I'm thinkin not many really give two-hoots-in-hell what you wrote a while back about Hawaii.

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    Re: Will the US end up giving independence to Hawaii?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    Puerto Rico is the same way. They want Independence from the US, just like Quebec wants Independence from Canada.
    Puerto Rico is not a state, Hawaii is. Huge difference.
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    Re: Will the US end up giving independence to Hawaii?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Technically Hawai'i isn't legally part of the United States, but that isn't recognized by the US obviously.

    I posted the source a while back search my posts you'll find it I'm lazy
    Technically it's a state, which makes you technically wrong. Anyone who thinks sinister plots were carried out, need only look at the vote for statehood. And besides, the Democratic Party got them statehood.....and you know they're as honest as the sky is blue.
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