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    Re: Will the US end up giving independence to Hawaii?

    Due to its importance to the military the answer would be no. But on top of that, while haole's may not be the most liked by locals...generally specifically local youths...I think it'd be incorrect to assume that the majority of individuals on the Islands would prefer independence then to remain a state.

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    Re: Will the US end up giving independence to Hawaii?

    Quote Originally Posted by snilloctjc View Post
    Evidently not Puerto Rico has held votes for independence and it has been rejected
    Actually they voted against statehood, not Independence.

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    Re: Will the US end up giving independence to Hawaii?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    Actually they voted against statehood, not Independence.
    It doesn't seem like very many of their people want independence, since support for the Independence party in Puerto Rico is well below support for both the statehood party and the commonwealth party.

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    There is a huge difference though between Puerto Rico and Hawaii, and that is that Puerto Rico has the option of voting themselves out of being a US territory. If they really wanted to be an independent country, it would simply take a vote by their people to make them free. If the US refused to allow this, it could be taken to the UN. It was determined in the Civil War that states cannot simply secede from the US. Hawaii is a state. And there is little chance that most people living in Hawaii would be willing to give up Hawaii's statehood, even if it was a possibility. Native Hawaiians only make up about 9.4% of the population. The two major groups of people living in Hawaii are Asians (41.6%) and whites (24.3%). It is not likely that the Asians would care at all about giving Hawaii back to the native Hawaiians, especially since, that would probably mean that almost everyone else living there would face some upheaval of their life, including possibly moving to the mainland, getting a US passport, or accepting Hawaiian citizenship.

    The change would lead to many issues that I'm not sure that the Hawaiians have actually thought about, including the fact that they would need a currency, they would no longer be considered citizens of the US, and they would lose federal funding for any projects in the state, since it would be a different country. On top of this, many of the workers for utility companies in Hawaii, such as power plant operators and even a good portion of their tourist industry workers are not going to stay in Hawaii if it becomes its own country.

    I don't think any of these things matter though, since it is highly unlikely that the US is going to willingly give up such a strategicly positioned state just to appease a small percentage of people. I doubt that the Native Hawaiians will ever be given full Native American recognition either, since neither side is likely to reach an acceptable set of terms for both the US and the Native Hawaiians.
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    Re: Will the US end up giving independence to Hawaii?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    Actually they voted against statehood, not Independence.
    You are correct. My mistake, that's what I get for relying on memory a my advanced age.

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