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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    Nope. I have feeling there and I'm a lot cleaner there than I would have been had I not been circumcised, plus I don't have a foreskin that has to be constantly pulled back when I do my business.
    There is no way you couldn't have exerpienced 4-6. You definitely, definitely did. Like I said, you have nothing to compare it against. But it was definitely non-consensual, and anatomically it's just a fact that the foreskin has a ton of nerve endings in it. The body is good at compensating to a degree, but that doesn't make it less true.

    You also have a really weird idea about how much "effort" having a foreskin is. Guess what: cut guys can have gross dicks just as easily as uncut guys, and it takes a fraction of a second to clean under the foreskin.

    Some women have to do the same thing, if they have a larger clitoral hood. Shall we cut it off?

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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    These "studies" have been highly criticized and discredited because of their methodological problems. For example, they did not complete their study. They just stopped as soon as they got the data they were looking for.

    And even if it was true its still insignificant protection. Condoms and other prophylactics provide real, measurable, protection whereas circumcision does not.
    We will take your word for it. I posted the article.

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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    There is no way you couldn't have exerpienced 4-6. You definitely, definitely did. Like I said, you have nothing to compare it against. But it was definitely non-consensual, and anatomically it's just a fact that the foreskin has a ton of nerve endings in it. The body is good at compensating to a degree, but that doesn't make it less true.

    You also have a really weird idea about how much "effort" having a foreskin is. Guess what: cut guys can have gross dicks just as easily as uncut guys, and it takes a fraction of a second to clean under the foreskin.



    Some women have to do the same thing, if they have a larger clitoral hood. Shall we cut it off?

    Circumcision on a woman takes away her sexual desire. That's why the Muslims do it, to stop unfaithfulness. That's not the case with a man. I still enjoy sex with my wife and she likes the fact that I'm circumcised. She thinks uncircumcised men are disgusting.

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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Ban it. And no, it's not all about the pain. It's also about...
    1. The trauma that it may cause.
    2. Relatively high risk of complications when done in infants, some of which may require corrective surgery.
    3. High risk of changes or even dysfunction in sexual function (in fact, this is why we started doing it in the West - to try to stop boys from masturbating by make them less sensitive - it was NOT for hygiene reasons).
    4. No significant advantages (the hygiene thing is total bogus, most boys' foreskins work just fine or can be made to with minor stretching, the STD claims are wildly exaggerated).
    5. Removes as much as 80% of the nerve endings in the penis and finally...
    6. It is performed on a NON-CONSENTING individual, and it cannot be undone. Even if none of the above were true I would still be against it for this reason.

    Temporal is right; it's genital mutilation as much as FGM is. Why we still tolerate performing it on infants in this country is so beyond me.
    1. Yeah it caused me so much trauma I have a 6 month old daughter
    2. Lol what?
    3. As I stated before, my dick is sticking straight up and ready to go just in cast 50% of the day. If nothing else it made me dysfunction in a totally different way by making sure I'm flexing and ready all the time.
    4. I don't know, but I'm pretty sure a lady is gonna want to stick this in there mouth without a bunch of extra turkey gobbler skin that makes it "suck" anymore than it already does.
    5. So you are saying if I wasn't circumcised I would just nut faster? Hey I guess that helps me out doesn't help anybody else out.
    6. You know what? I haven't heard one horror story from any guy saying "Omg I will never have a bunch of useless dick skin again my life is ruined RUINNNNED!!!"
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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    Circumcision on a woman takes away her sexual desire. That's why the Muslims do it, to stop unfaithfulness. That's not the case with a man. I still enjoy sex with my wife and she likes the fact that I'm circumcised. She thinks uncircumcised men are disgusting.
    Nope. Time to brush up on your anatomy.

    Circumcision applies to foreskin. The clitoral hood is the female foreskin.

    This is one form of practiced FGM. There are other more extreme forms that remove more tissue. And there are some that remove the entire vulva, including the clitoris. The term "FGM" encompasses a wide variety of practices. Some of which are EXACTLY THE SAME as male circumcision, in terms of what tissues they remove.

    Removing only the clitoral hood would decrease sensation, in EXACTLY the same way male circumcision does, and for EXACTLY the same reasons. It would not completely end it, because the clitoris would still be there. But the effect would be the same.

    And guess why we started circ'ing men in the Western world. Yes, that's right, to reduce their sexual pleasure and try to curb them away from masturbating.

    It doesn't necessarily work, but that's the intent.

    Circumcising women is a form of FGM. It has the exact same purpose and effect as circumcising men. It is the exact same tissue with the exact same purpose - just on a smaller glans. That's the only real difference.

    And when it's women you find it horrible. And when it's men you find it acceptable. Why?

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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Nope. Time to brush up on your anatomy.

    Circumcision applies to foreskin. The clitoral hood is the female foreskin.

    This is one form of practiced FGM. There are other more extreme forms that remove more tissue. And there are some that remove the entire vulva, including the clitoris. The term "FGM" encompasses a wide variety of practices. Some of which are EXACTLY THE SAME as male circumcision, in terms of what tissues they remove.

    Removing only the clitoral hood would decrease sensation, in EXACTLY the same way male circumcision does, and for EXACTLY the same reasons. It would not completely end it, because the clitoris would still be there. But the effect would be the same.

    And guess why we started circ'ing men in the Western world. Yes, that's right, to reduce their sexual pleasure and try to curb them away from masturbating.

    It doesn't necessarily work, but that's the intent.

    Circumcising women is a form of FGM. It has the exact same purpose and effect as circumcising men. It is the exact same tissue with the exact same purpose - just on a smaller glans. That's the only real difference.

    And when it's women you find it horrible. And when it's men you find it acceptable. Why?
    It hasn't affected my sexual desire. In fact, all my wife has to do is get naked right in front of me and I'm immediately ready to go.

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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    1. Yeah it caused me so much trauma I have a 6 month old daughter
    2. Lol what?
    3. As I stated before, my dick is sticking straight up and ready to go just in cast 50% of the day. If nothing else it made me dysfunction in a totally different way by making sure I'm flexing and ready all the time.
    4. I don't know, but I'm pretty sure a lady is gonna want to stick this in there mouth without a bunch of extra turkey gobbler skin that makes it "suck" anymore than it already does.
    5. So you are saying if I wasn't circumcised I would just nut faster? Hey I guess that helps me out doesn't help anybody else out.
    6. You know what? I haven't heard one horror story from any guy saying "Omg I will never have a bunch of useless dick skin again my life is ruined RUINNNNED!!!"
    1. There is proven bonding trauma that occurs in many male infants after circumcision. Since you have nothing to compare it against, your unrelated anecdote is pointless.
    2. Removing too much or too little skin affects as much as 10% of circ'ed males and sometimes requires reconstructive surgery due to pain and disfigurment. This can't be prevented when circ'ing infants, because the growth of the penis is unpredictable. And that's only one of the risks.
    3. Anecdote =/= study. And again, you have nothing to compare it against.
    4. That's your own basless opinion (having never had foreskin in your sexually active life, I assume). I have no preference. I'm educated enough to understand what a penis looks like in its natural state, and my cultural bias has been erased by the reality of seeing what it's like for myself. It's really a pretty ingenius mechanism and it makes some things work better (which is WHY IT'S THERE).
    5. No, not necessarily. There is no evidence that uncirc'ed men orgasm faster than circ'ed. However, anorgasmia is more common in circ'ed men.
    6. I have. Why do you think the plastic surgery industry has started offering foreskin reconstruction? It's a demand-driven industry.

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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    It hasn't affected my sexual desire. In fact, all my wife has to do is get naked right in front of me and I'm immediately ready to go.
    Way to not answer my question. I'll ask again.

    Some forms of FGM are identical to male circumcision. Same tissue being removed, same effects. Why is it bad when it's done non-consensually to women, but good when it's done non-consensually to men?

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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Way to not answer my question. I'll ask again.

    Some forms of FGM are identical to male circumcision. Same tissue being removed, same effects. Why is it bad when it's done non-consensually to women, but good when it's done non-consensually to men?
    It's not a health issue in women like it is in men.

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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Nope. Time to brush up on your anatomy.

    Circumcision applies to foreskin. The clitoral hood is the female foreskin.

    This is one form of practiced FGM. There are other more extreme forms that remove more tissue. And there are some that remove the entire vulva, including the clitoris. The term "FGM" encompasses a wide variety of practices. Some of which are EXACTLY THE SAME as male circumcision, in terms of what tissues they remove.

    Removing only the clitoral hood would decrease sensation, in EXACTLY the same way male circumcision does, and for EXACTLY the same reasons. It would not completely end it, because the clitoris would still be there. But the effect would be the same.

    And guess why we started circ'ing men in the Western world. Yes, that's right, to reduce their sexual pleasure and try to curb them away from masturbating.

    It doesn't necessarily work, but that's the intent.

    Circumcising women is a form of FGM. It has the exact same purpose and effect as circumcising men. It is the exact same tissue with the exact same purpose - just on a smaller glans. That's the only real difference.

    And when it's women you find it horrible. And when it's men you find it acceptable. Why?
    Really none of your business, right?

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