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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    These "studies" have been highly criticized and discredited because of their methodological problems. For example, they did not complete their study. They just stopped as soon as they got the data they were looking for.

    And even if it was true its still insignificant protection. Condoms and other prophylactics provide real, measurable, protection whereas circumcision does not.
    OMFG....say it isn't so, a "scientific study" that manipulated data to come up with the results they were looking for????? IMPOSSIBLE

    I've been trying to tell Tucker the same damn thing in another thread. apparently he thinks "scientific studies" are infallible.
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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    And where did you mother learn it from? Did she perform the study or did she hear it from someone else? Where does the trail lead? To an actual study or to fraud/lie/imagination?
    She saw it happen.

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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    OMFG....say it isn't so, a "scientific study" that manipulated data to come up with the results they were looking for????? IMPOSSIBLE

    I've been trying to tell Tucker the same damn thing in another thread. apparently he thinks "scientific studies" are infallible.
    No studies are infallible. But if they have been through peer review or there are multiple studies on the same subject then that greatly reduces the chance of error.

    A study by scientists that hasn't been reviewed or reproduced is always suspect.
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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    She saw it happen.
    Then get your mother to tell us the name of the study she "saw" so we can all verify it. Otherwise we will all assume you (or your mother) is a liar.
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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    No studies are infallible. But if they have been through peer review or there are multiple studies on the same subject then that greatly reduces the chance of error.

    A study by scientists that hasn't been reviewed or reproduced is always suspect.
    I find it funny that two groups can do basically the same study and come up with virtually diametrically opposed results. seen it happen all to often, hence my general distrust of polls and studies.
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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I find it funny that two groups can do basically the same study and come up with virtually diametrically opposed results. seen it happen all to often, hence my general distrust of polls and studies.
    In areas of sociology and other "soft sciences" that wouldn't be surprising. In areas like physics, math, chemistry, biology that would be surprising.

    Have any examples?
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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    In areas of sociology and other "soft sciences" that wouldn't be surprising. In areas like physics, math, chemistry, biology that would be surprising.

    Have any examples?
    look at all the conflicting studies on homosexuality and AGW
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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Then get your mother to tell us the name of the study she "saw" so we can all verify it. Otherwise we will all assume you (or your mother) is a liar.
    Personal experience. My father wasn't cut.

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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Ban it. And no, it's not all about the pain. It's also about...
    1. The trauma that it may cause.
    2. Relatively high risk of complications when done in infants, some of which may require corrective surgery.
    3. High risk of changes or even dysfunction in sexual function (in fact, this is why we started doing it in the West - to try to stop boys from masturbating by make them less sensitive - it was NOT for hygiene reasons).
    4. No significant advantages (the hygiene thing is total bogus, most boys' foreskins work just fine or can be made to with minor stretching, the STD claims are wildly exaggerated).
    5. Removes as much as 80% of the nerve endings in the penis and finally...
    6. It is performed on a NON-CONSENTING individual, and it cannot be undone. Even if none of the above were true I would still be against it for this reason.

    Temporal is right; it's genital mutilation as much as FGM is. Why we still tolerate performing it on infants in this country is so beyond me.

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    Re: Should male circumcision be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    look at all the conflicting studies on homosexuality
    Which conflicting studies?

    Homosexuality falls into the domain of psychology/sociology. Soft sciences.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    look at all the conflicting studies on AGW
    Which two studies on AGW are the same but produce different conclusions? And please cite studies from a legitimate and respected scientific journal.

    A study on ice cores and a study on ocean levels are NOT the same study.
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