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Thread: Is Russia just as bad as the Soviet Union?

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    Re: Is Russia just as bad as the Soviet Union?

    First Russian Spy:
    Well, here you Russian? I do not know. Where are you from? When you came to the U.S.? How old are you?

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    What, did not notice my avatar? Vysotsky ... I am 21 years old. I came here sometime in 1995 but I have been in Russia since then. Born in Kharkov

    Or so says Google?
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    Re: Is Russia just as bad as the Soviet Union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Molotok View Post
    (We should probably continue in English, as I think it's against the rules to post in other languages, but I wanted to see if you still spoke our language.)

    :/ So you didn't live there, the Soviet Union, I mean, not really. But you are Russian, fair enough.

    Anyway, you've instantly become much more interesting to me -- often when I meet Russian expats, or the children of Russian expats in the UK or the USA, they've the same nostalgia for Russia as I've described. Can I drain your brain a bit, then, and try to figure out what makes you different?
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Is Russia just as bad as the Soviet Union?

    I mean, the avatar really should have been a dead giveaway.

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    Re: Is Russia just as bad as the Soviet Union?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    First Russian Spy:
    Well, here you Russian? I do not know. Where are you from? When you came to the U.S.? How old are you?

    Second Russian Spy:
    What, did not notice my avatar? Vysotsky ... I am 21 years old. I came here sometime in 1995 but I have been in Russia since then. Born in Kharkov

    Or so says Google?
    That was it, to a tee. Accent and all. Except my younger compatriot (comrade) probably doesn't have any Russian accent at all.

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    Re: Is Russia just as bad as the Soviet Union?

    It...sorta varies. Depends on how confident I am in what I'm saying.
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    Re: Is Russia just as bad as the Soviet Union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    I mean, the avatar really should have been a dead giveaway.

    You want to drain? Drain away.
    Well, I bet I understand the leaving in 1995 bit -- it wasn't the nicest place at that point, or so I'm told. Throughout the entirety of the 90's I was in the French Foreign Legion, and afterwards, the Royal Marines, so I didn't make any but a single trip to Russia that decade, which was in 1997.

    Anyway, the bits I don't understand -- why Georgia? I have some relatives in Chicago -- I lived there for a little more than half a year, the place is filled with East Europeans -- and there are a lot of Russian Jews in New York, Brighton Beach and all that. But Georgia seems an odd choice, especially for a Soviet immigrant.

    Secondly, do you consider yourself Russian, Ukrainian, or American? Or perhaps Russian-American, or Ukrainian-American? Hmm, or perhaps Soviet? Though I don't see that one, you'd barely been born when the Wall came down.

    Is your family Jewish, by any chance? If not (or maybe if so), did you already have relatives in the West? White Officers (Белые офицеры), perhaps? Or maybe, are you Cossack? Or did your parents just become antipathies (антипатикий) due to some bad run-in with the Party at some point?

    How do you feel about Russia (or Ukraine) now (I think I get how you feel about the CCCP already :P), and how often, if ever, do you go back to Kharkov to visit?




    PS Non-Russians can like Vysotsky too.
    Last edited by Molotok; 07-01-11 at 08:07 PM.

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    Re: Is Russia just as bad as the Soviet Union?

    Let's see...

    I go to school in Atlanta, and therefore have lived there most of the past 3 years. Before college, I lived in South Florida with my parents and my sister.

    I consider myself an American, of immigrant background, just like most Americans at one point or another. I just happen to be fresher off the boat.

    Hit the jackpot on the third one. I'm Jewish. We pretty much have relatives all over. Australia, Germany, Israel, various American states, and some remaining in Russia or the Ukraine. My family wasn't really political enough during the civil war to be white officers. Just shtetl-Jews. There were various "encounters" with authority in terms of jobs and school though...

    I already posted how I feel about Russia on the first page of this thread: http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059606815

    I don't really go back on any basis. There's not much for me to go back to.
    Last edited by Jeezy; 07-01-11 at 08:14 PM.
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    Re: Is Russia just as bad as the Soviet Union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    Let's see...

    I go to school in Atlanta, and therefore have lived there most of the past 3 years. Before college, I lived in South Florida with my parents and my sister.

    I consider myself an American, of immigrant background, just like most Americans at one point or another. I just happen to be fresher off the boat.

    Hit the jackpot on the third one. I'm Jewish. We pretty much have relatives all over. Australia, Germany, Israel, various American states, and some remaining in Russia or the Ukraine. My family wasn't really political enough during the civil war to be white officers. Just shtetl-Jews. There were various "encounters" with authority in terms of jobs and school though...

    I already posted how I feel about Russia on the first page of this thread: http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059606815

    I don't really go back on any basis. There's not much for me to go back to.
    Ah. Well, this explains a lot, and I think I can see where you're coming from here, with that background. Still, I think we'll not be seeing eye to eye on the issue of the Soviet Union, owing I suppose to two entirely different experiences with it. But it was still interesting to meet you.

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    Re: Is Russia just as bad as the Soviet Union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Molotok View Post
    Ah. Well, this explains a lot, and I think I can see where you're coming from here, with that background. Still, I think we'll not be seeing eye to eye on the issue of the Soviet Union, owing I suppose to two entirely different experiences with it. But it was still interesting to meet you.


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    Re: Is Russia just as bad as the Soviet Union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    Ahh, so that's what this is about....the typical hurt Russian pride that so many suffer from. I thought so.
    it really is a contest between them and the French over who has the Smallest Penis Syndrome

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