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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    And I strongly disagree. All manner of artists use gimmicks, that doesn't make them strange.

    On the plastic surgery front, I heard at one point that as long as he could still see his father's face in his own, he couldn't bear looking at himself. Don't know if it's true or not, but it makes sense.
    the use of gimmicks is not what made him strange. It was his penchant for buggering young boys what did that.
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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Anthony Gormley's "Angel of the North" is possibly the most viewed work of art in the world as it is passed by 90,000 commuters every day. It's good, but not that good.

    Being passed by commuters is not the kind of experience I'm talking about. There's a difference between listening to a song and passing by a store that happens to be playing it.
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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    the use of gimmicks is not what made him strange. It was his penchant for buggering young boys what did that.
    AHA! But the vast bulk of his works were fait accompli before that issue came to light.

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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Where did the discussion of "worth" come from?
    This is a thread about being overrated. That absolutely implies a discussion about what the artist or his art is worth relative to others..

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    And this is the criteria by which we should judge art? Whether or not people would burn the author (alive?) or the Statue of Liberty?
    That seems just a stranger, Wickerman version of ad populum.
    It's the only criteria by which we actually can judge greatness. Everything else is self-delusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    It doesn't have to be complex to be great. But, yes something can be great even if it's not well-known.
    Did Thriller music suck until it was released and sold?
    Only to those who actually know it. "Greatness" comes with recognition. There is no objective measure of greatness besides recognition and impact. Everything else is a matter of opinion, but you can always look to an artist's exposure.

    Art can certainly be of quality and not be known. But "great?" You can't just take the eminence out of greatness.
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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    You guys are making a mistake here about "worth".

    Worth and value are two different things. Something (in this case a work of art) can have worth yet no value and vice versa. Value is the monetary denomination placed on it worth is the intrinsic intagible denomination placed on it.

    Case in point, at one time Van Gogh's work had no value yet had worth.

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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    AHA! But the vast bulk of his works were fait accompli before that issue came to light.
    please, he was sodomizing "Carlton" (later of Fresh Prince fame) at the time he released Thriller
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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    but the Beatles actually had talent
    Leif Garret could huff them under the table tho!

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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    the use of gimmicks is not what made him strange. It was his penchant for buggering young boys what did that.
    I grant you his behaviors with children were beyond weird...I highly doubt he was sexual with them. It would be interesting to know how much of his creative ability was driven by just natural God given talent and how much was the product of fighting shadows. Pretty tragic figure...not that hard to understand and empathize with.

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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I highly doubt he was sexual with them.
    as Katt Williams sez "People don't say the same **** about you for 20 goddamn years if it ain't true. If a mother****er calls you a crackhead for 20 years, bitch you are smokin crack"

    1 kid accuses you of molestation, it could be bull****
    2nd kid comes forward, doubt begins to creep in
    3rd, 4th, 5th kid comes along....you are a freakin little boy ****er

    how many millions of $$$$$$ did michael pay to how many different little boy's families to buy their silence?
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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    MJ was epic, no doubt about it. Sure, many people can do what he did, but he had a certain uniqueness no one has. And he was weird, but weird in a way where it had people love him/ hate him.

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