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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Sadly it seems that the bigger the star, the greater the talent, the bigger the personal demons. the list of famous celebrities who succumbed to these demons is lengthy
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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Sadly it seems that the bigger the star, the greater the talent, the bigger the personal demons. the list of famous celebrities who succumbed to these demons is lengthy
    I suspect that many, many people would have real issues if they could afford to have them.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Michael Jackson can dance and sing. But so can many, MANY others. Was he just there at the right time and right place? Is he REALLY that good? King of Pop? or just a guy that was very talented but overrated?
    He could dance and sing better than others. He worked his ass off to get that good. No. He is not overrated. He was appropriately a global icon.
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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Michael Jackson isn't anything but deceased.

    He WAS over rated... and he WAS not that good.

    Let's get our tenses right, eh people?

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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Michael Jackson isn't anything but deceased.

    He WAS over rated... and he WAS not that good.

    Let's get our tenses right, eh people?
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    He was a very talented musician - but I think no more or less talented than say Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder. His dancing was irrelevant to me... though I see it as part of his persona / act. I thought the media over-hyped him partly because he was a rather strange and broken individual, as well as a ****ing odd ball especially when kids were involved.
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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    He was a very talented musician - but I think no more or less talented than say Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder. His dancing was irrelevant to me... though I see it as part of his persona / act. I thought the media over-hyped him partly because he was a rather strange and broken individual, as well as a ****ing odd ball especially when kids were involved.
    He was a legitimate star before the media started overhyping him because of his personal demons.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Overrated? Nah...musical genious...supremely talented...psychologicaly a mess...but overrated? No.

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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    He was a legitimate star before the media started overhyping him because of his personal demons.
    I agree he was a star, but he was no more talented than Ray or Stevie, or for that matter Jimi Hendrix or any of probably hundreds of more musicians and performers. He was over rated because of his weirdness, not because of his talent which was and continues to be sad.
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    Re: Is Michael Jackson Overrated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I agree he was a star, but he was no more talented than Ray or Stevie, or for that matter Jimi Hendrix or any of probably hundreds of more musicians and performers. He was over rated because of his weirdness, not because of his talent which was and continues to be sad.
    Going back to the OP tho, if someone were to say Michael Jackson is the greatest most bestest musician, showman, and singer of all time for ever and ever, OK...then THAT might be 'over-rated.' Ray Charles was absolutely gifted, but wasnt by any stretch the best blues singer pi ani player. But he was AWESOME. Hendrix was an innovater, a great blues guitarist and rock musician...but not the greatest ever. I think as long as the definition remains Michael/Ray/Jimi/? Was An AWESOME fantastic great musician, then I dont see how they could be judged as 'overrated.

    Maybe thats what is needed...who is the most overrated musician of all time.

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