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    Re: Is North Korea a communistic State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Well, it's definitely got the leader worship part right but their economics are all wrong.
    Oh give me a break, Karl Marx was the biggest shill for bull**** that ever lived. None of his theory would ever work. Not ever!
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    Re: Is North Korea a communistic State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress
    Officially, NK is a Socialist Republic. It fits closer as a Totalitarian Dictatorship. It's not communist.
    Totalitarianism is a myth, a fantasy used for propaganda purposes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr
    To be fair, North Korea started out as a Marxist revolution.
    No it didn't...

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17
    The term communism has become much more broad since the late 1950s, not just Carl Marx's/etc. specific plan.
    Sure, it's come to mean whatever people want it to mean. After all Obama's even a communist, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm
    But no objection to Mao, Pot or Stalin. Hmm...
    Mao was a peasant guerrilla and a bureaucrat. Pol Pot was a primitivist and a bureaucrat. Stalin was an opportunist and a bureaucrat.

    North Korea essentially has a single successful company. The owners are doing very well. Kind of like Ford was when it had its own police force etc. Definitely not communistic, much worse than that.
    State capitalism theory is a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by American
    Oh give me a break, Karl Marx was the biggest shill for bull**** that ever lived. None of his theory would ever work. Not ever!
    Do you ever post anything of substance or just stick to trollish one liners?
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    Re: Is North Korea a communistic State?

    Good question! And good poll topic too. You know..... it is but it sure doesnt seem like it is. They crap on their citizens much more than other communistic countries so it seems.
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    Re: Is North Korea a communistic State?

    It is ruled by the WKP which is a communist party with their own flavor. I voted yes, however some of their actions aren't in line with pure communism.
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    Re: Is North Korea a communistic State?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It is ruled by the WKP which is a communist party with their own flavor. I voted yes, however some of their actions aren't in line with pure communism.
    I concur sir. *tipping hat*
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    Re: Is North Korea a communistic State?

    It may call itself Communist, but Kim Jong-il is so off his rocker that I don't think he even knows what kind of country NK is anymore. It is "whatever Kim Jong-il decides to call it today"-ism.

    And anyway... it has deviated far from Communism. The ruling class lives in paradisaical luxury in a fashion far removed from the every day realities of the nation, while everyone else has to catch grains of rice spilling from the goods train that is headed to one of various palaces. Last time I checked, that's not what collectivization and equal distribution looks like.

    You'll notice that any east Asian nation that adopted communism has simply become a modern remake of the imperial dynasties. Emperors, in other words.

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    Re: Is North Korea a communistic State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    NK is a communistic fascist regime. If Kim Jong Il gives the throne to his son, it will be history's first communistic fascist dynastic regime.
    This is a contradiction. There is no "nation" in a Communist country.
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    Re: Is North Korea a communistic State?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Yes, it is communist. If you want to make a more specific term for what they are, sure.
    The term communism has become much more broad since the late 1950s, not just Carl Marx's/etc. specific plan.
    The problem with this line of thought is that defines Communism as anything self proclaimed Communists have tried. Thus, capitalism is Communism as are private property rights, class based societies, Western export oriented economies and rule by the few, basically everything Marx said to reject. If we deviate in any meaningful way from Marx, we run the risk of defining countries like Switzerland as Communist.
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    Re: Is North Korea a communistic State?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Oh give me a break, Karl Marx was the biggest shill for bull**** that ever lived. None of his theory would ever work. Not ever!
    Not in greedy humans at least. That doesn't mean his theories won't work.
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    Re: Is North Korea a communistic State?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It is ruled by the WKP which is a communist party with their own flavor. I voted yes, however some of their actions aren't in line with pure communism.
    How exactly is a country ruled by the few, with a strong central state, with clear class distinctions Communist?

    The problem with your line of thinking is that anything self proclaimed Communists have done is therefore Communist. Basically you just argued France, the UK, Canada, the US and Switzerland are Communist.
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