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    Re: Does the islam form a threat to democracy ?

    What is "the Islam"

    No, it doesn't. Some followers of it may, but it's a minority, especially in this country.

    As to it only being Muslims that oppose democracy, I do believe the one christian State I can think of is set up with essentially an individual political leader

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    Re: Does the islam form a threat to democracy ?

    The only serious threats to Western democracy are:

    (1) oligarchic cliques consisting of the social elite.

    (2) rampant populism and partisanship.

    Usually the two go together, with oligarchic cliques manipulating populist and partisan sentiments among the broader population to obtain the authorization to obtain their political goals.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 06-29-11 at 12:32 AM.
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    Re: Does the islam form a threat to democracy ?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    With all these democratic revolutions in the middle east I'dve thought people would think differently.
    They aren't 'democratic' revolutions, at least not in the sense Western liberals understand democracy.

    These 'revolutions', like the one in Iran, will lead to far worse than what they overthrew. Islam is an imperialist doctrine, far more a political ideology than a religion, it's 'religious' aspects being merely lifted from other religions, mainly Judaism, and rewritten to appeal to Arab racism and expansionism.

    It is completely devoid of dynamic internal moral and intellectual reforms, unlike other major religions which have internal moral and philosophical checks and balances; secularism is prima facie impossible under Islam.
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    Re: Does the islam form a threat to democracy ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You do realize that it is those to things which made the US right? Are you willing to abolish the US?
    The U.S. has never been a liberal democracy. It's always been a corrupt oligarchy, with it's 'government', at all levels, up for sale to the highest bidder, and it's exactly the same as it was 200 years ago, when Hamilton and the Federalists deliberately made it that way, with concessions from Thomas Jefferson, another aristocrat who didn't believe in elections by popular vote.

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    Re: Does the islam form a threat to democracy ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    The U.S. has never been a liberal democracy. It's always been a corrupt oligarchy, with it's 'government', at all levels, up for sale to the highest bidder, and it's exactly the same as it was 200 years ago, when Hamilton and the Federalists deliberately made it that way, with concessions from Thomas Jefferson, another aristocrat who didn't believe in elections by popular vote.
    Enjoying your ritalin?

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    Re: Does the islam form a threat to democracy ?

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    Re: Does the islam form a threat to democracy ?

    I'm gonna have to disagree with that. Pretty sure some of the countries in the Middle East were democracies before the fundamentalist Muslims took power.
    Nope. Iran overthrew a monarchy.

    Even if they weren't, democracy is only coming to those people over their dead bodies.
    How do you think the U.S. become a democracy? Freedom is rarely cheap.

    Are they a threat here in the west? No, of course not. That doesn't mean they're not a threat at all.
    How many times have Muslims conquered or overthrown the ruler of a foreign nation in the last 100 years?

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    Re: Does the islam form a threat to democracy ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Enjoying your ritalin?
    I don't need it, but thanks for your concern.

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    Re: Does the islam form a threat to democracy ?

    How many times have Muslims conquered or overthrown the ruler of a foreign nation in the last 100 years?
    Since 1911?

    Do you want the entire list?

    Define 'foreign nation' for us.

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    Re: Does the islam form a threat to democracy ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    I don't need it, but thanks for your concern.
    You're right about that one... seems like the side effects are really showing in you.

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