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Thread: Class will tell

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    Re: Class will tell

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    really? who says you wouldn't be fit? the social elite can be pretty pretty ****ed up people, in all kinds of ways.
    Oh, I'm not concerned by it. It's simply an acknowledgment of fact. There are certain circles I am equipped to operate in, and high society is not among them.

    I wouldn't mind having the juice, but there are other ways of obtaining juice.

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    That was my mother's mindset. But when we're talking the census - no. You stop being one class and start being another. Nobody will accept you in the other, but you would be entitled to be called "upper class."
    Well, sure. You're free to call yourself anything you want. But if all of the other reindeer don't accept you, best hope Santa finds you useful.

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    Re: Class will tell

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Quick question. When someone self-identifies as being from a certain class, do they get to choose based on the highest class they've been, or is it based on what class they actually are based on income?
    By default everyone says 'income' But you can look one class level - and be in another. The 'income' stereotype comes from people of that income generally being able to (past decades or present) afford certain luxuries and ammenities.

    I am middle class - always lived as middle class - even when I was dirt poor.
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    Re: Class will tell

    Class requires a culture that defines it. In the US we don’t have that.
    If we use such things income our highest class was reached 10 years ago, dropped 50% for 8 years, then dropped to zero about 2 years ago and now with pension and SS we’re back to about 20%. If we consider our net worth we’ve gone up about 100% in the past 10 years. If we consider our acquaintances and activities, we haven’t changed much. But, I now have a much nicer 18 ft. fishing boat w/ 60 hp and a center console and ten years ago I had to pull a starter rope in a 16 ft. Does that count as a class change?

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    Re: Class will tell

    My understanding of class is based on wealth, privilege, and political power.

    Upper class = the most wealthy and/or the most politically affluent
    Middle class = disposable income but no political power
    Lower class = the least disposable income and no political influence

    It's not cut and dry though.

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    Re: Class will tell

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    My understanding of class is based on wealth, privilege, and political power.

    Upper class = the most wealthy and/or the most politically affluent
    Middle class = disposable income but no political power
    Lower class = the least disposable income and no political influence

    It's not cut and dry though.
    Thanks for supporting my opinion "Class requires a culture that defines it. In the US we don’t have that." If we did it would be cut and dry and it wouldn't two independent variables.

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    Re: Class will tell

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    My understanding of class is based on wealth, privilege, and political power.

    Upper class = the most wealthy and/or the most politically affluent
    Middle class = disposable income but no political power
    Lower class = the least disposable income and no political influence

    It's not cut and dry though.
    Unions, interest groups, pacs . . . political influence and represent a large variety of people and classes. . . your views make little sense to me.

    Money does not necessarily equal political influence - if a wealthy person has influence in the political sphere it's because of things like *who* they know and *where* they go - money aids in being able to make trips, mingle with the right crowd . . . it enables but isn't actually necessary.
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    Re: Class will tell

    I've always been high class. When I lift my bone china coffee cup to my lips, my pinky finger automatically extends. I always know which fork to use and how to wield my napkin. All of my shirts require cuff-links. I own 11 tuxedos.

    I haven't driven an automobile in over 30 years. That's why we have chauffeurs.

    <wakes up and rubs eyes> "Me? No I wasn't sleeping, just resting my eyes".

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