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Class will tell

What is class based on?

  • Highest class you've been/were raised as

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • Income

    Votes: 5 41.7%
  • Don't know, don't care

    Votes: 3 25.0%
  • Hot Pockets!

    Votes: 3 25.0%

  • Total voters
    12
I have never cared about that. I have found that the force of my personality is often so strong that I can win people over if I ever want to, when I want to.

That's true but mainly it's for personal convenience.
I work around some real ****ty people, along with some decent folks.

I tend to stay away from the ****ty, to avoid all the drama that goes along with them.
The people who attempt to suck the resources out of all around them.
(The guys always asking for money, cig's, a ride home/to work, etc.)


Perhaps. I tend to take everyone individually and watch for the subtle signs in their physical behavior to determine their honesty and other personality traits. However, honesty is a huge thing for me. If a person is not honest, I don't care about their other personality traits. Often you can pick out a very good person, in the middle of a group of not so nice people, if you know what to look for.

I do tend to watch before interacting, to determine who the person really is.
Even somewhat dishonest people can be manipulated into supporting you.

It sounds wrong but it's mostly for self protection/preservation.
 
That's true but mainly it's for personal convenience.
I work around some real ****ty people, along with some decent folks.

I tend to stay away from the ****ty, to avoid all the drama that goes along with them.
The people who attempt to suck the resources out of all around them.
(The guys always asking for money, cig's, a ride home/to work, etc.)

I tend to avoid people who bring up drama because its annoying. I don't care if your life isn't perfect, nobody's is, get over it and make it better (unless there is a real problem, like a lack of food, health care, a proper education, real emotional issues, etc, however your grandma offending you is not a real problem). (not you personally, harry, this is more of a general attitude that I have)

I do tend to watch before interacting, to determine who the person really is.
Even somewhat dishonest people can be manipulated into supporting you.

It sounds wrong but it's mostly for self protection/preservation.

I don't like to manipulate people emotionally, its not honest. However, what I mean is that I can dominate a room and have plenty of charisma, when I want to, but its emotionally draining for me to do so as I am an introvert.
 
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I also go with ideology.
 
I tend to avoid people who bring up drama because its annoying. I don't care if your life isn't perfect, nobody's is, get over it and make it better (unless there is a real problem, like a lack of food, health care, a proper education, real emotional issues, etc). (not you personally, harry, this is more of a general attitude that I have)

I do as well.
There are certain situations where it is unavoidable though, like at work.
More or less alludes to my next point.


I don't like to manipulate people emotionally, its not honest. However, what I mean is that I can dominate a room and have plenty of charisma, when I want to, but its emotionally draining for me to do so as I am an introvert.

I hate it, but like right now, I have to work with a guy whose life is a complete cluster**** and he's regularly dishonest.
I don't like working around people like that, at all, but for the time being it isn't going to change.

I've worked him over to the point where he doesn't bother me too much.
Had to do some emotional manipulation though, not happy about it but it is, what it is.

Introvert here too, although when I'm comfortable around people, I tend to goof around a lot.
 
I do as well.
There are certain situations where it is unavoidable though, like at work.
More or less alludes to my next point.




I hate it, but like right now, I have to work with a guy whose life is a complete cluster**** and he's regularly dishonest.
I don't like working around people like that, at all, but for the time being it isn't going to change.

I've worked him over to the point where he doesn't bother me too much.
Had to do some emotional manipulation though, not happy about it but it is, what it is.

Introvert here too, although when I'm comfortable around people, I tend to goof around a lot.

I have a way of looking at people when they are doing wrong that makes them feel guilty, assuming they also believe they are doing wrong.

It works great on almost anyone, except for my children (they are too used to me). I think it works because I am in some ways a natural leader, even though I don't really enjoy being a leader or being in charge. I would prefer that everyone knows what the right thing is and they just do it without being told to.
 
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really? who says you wouldn't be fit? the social elite can be pretty pretty ****ed up people, in all kinds of ways.

Oh, I'm not concerned by it. It's simply an acknowledgment of fact. There are certain circles I am equipped to operate in, and high society is not among them.

I wouldn't mind having the juice, but there are other ways of obtaining juice.

That was my mother's mindset. But when we're talking the census - no. You stop being one class and start being another. Nobody will accept you in the other, but you would be entitled to be called "upper class."

Well, sure. You're free to call yourself anything you want. But if all of the other reindeer don't accept you, best hope Santa finds you useful.
 
Quick question. When someone self-identifies as being from a certain class, do they get to choose based on the highest class they've been, or is it based on what class they actually are based on income?

By default everyone says 'income' But you can look one class level - and be in another. The 'income' stereotype comes from people of that income generally being able to (past decades or present) afford certain luxuries and ammenities.

I am middle class - always lived as middle class - even when I was dirt poor.
 
Class requires a culture that defines it. In the US we don’t have that.
If we use such things income our highest class was reached 10 years ago, dropped 50% for 8 years, then dropped to zero about 2 years ago and now with pension and SS we’re back to about 20%. If we consider our net worth we’ve gone up about 100% in the past 10 years. If we consider our acquaintances and activities, we haven’t changed much. But, I now have a much nicer 18 ft. fishing boat w/ 60 hp and a center console and ten years ago I had to pull a starter rope in a 16 ft. Does that count as a class change?
 
My understanding of class is based on wealth, privilege, and political power.

Upper class = the most wealthy and/or the most politically affluent
Middle class = disposable income but no political power
Lower class = the least disposable income and no political influence

It's not cut and dry though.
 
My understanding of class is based on wealth, privilege, and political power.

Upper class = the most wealthy and/or the most politically affluent
Middle class = disposable income but no political power
Lower class = the least disposable income and no political influence

It's not cut and dry though.

Thanks for supporting my opinion "Class requires a culture that defines it. In the US we don’t have that." If we did it would be cut and dry and it wouldn't two independent variables.
 
My understanding of class is based on wealth, privilege, and political power.

Upper class = the most wealthy and/or the most politically affluent
Middle class = disposable income but no political power
Lower class = the least disposable income and no political influence

It's not cut and dry though.

Unions, interest groups, pacs . . . political influence and represent a large variety of people and classes. . . your views make little sense to me.

Money does not necessarily equal political influence - if a wealthy person has influence in the political sphere it's because of things like *who* they know and *where* they go - money aids in being able to make trips, mingle with the right crowd . . . it enables but isn't actually necessary.
 
I've always been high class. When I lift my bone china coffee cup to my lips, my pinky finger automatically extends. I always know which fork to use and how to wield my napkin. All of my shirts require cuff-links. I own 11 tuxedos.

I haven't driven an automobile in over 30 years. That's why we have chauffeurs.

<wakes up and rubs eyes> "Me? No I wasn't sleeping, just resting my eyes".

"Don't let me catch you sleeping on the job again".
<sigh>
 
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