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    Re: What is your opinion of Barack Obama now?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Unforunately, we have a glut of those "conservatives" here.
    We have a rather large glut of those "liberals" here as well

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    Re: What is your opinion of Barack Obama now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    My point being that if Obama is less than what he should be, it is because the American people don't enable him to be better.
    So... it's our fault he sucks as POTUS?

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    Re: What is your opinion of Barack Obama now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Stalin had powers that Obama doesn't.
    Not to mention a gun on his hip and 1,000,000,000, 0000 other guns at his command.

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    Re: What is your opinion of Barack Obama now?

    It could be worse - he could have actually governed towards his campaign positions and promises.

    2012 is not looking good - its 2008 all over again, no one that really inspires me to hope for real leadership and vision.

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    Re: What is your opinion of Barack Obama now?

    Oh I don't know, you need to give the guy more time to find his feets. After all this is his first real job. Once he gets out there and visits all 57 states you'll start to feel differently about him. And think about it, he has surprised everyone with his relish for drones and he's sent a lot more corpsemen out to make friends with terrorists and build schools so they could practice their demolition skills. He's done a lot when you think about it. He has redirected NASA in a more practical direction instructing them to make Muslims feel good about the mathematical achievements they stole from the Hindus they slaughtered. He has redirected the efforts of the Department of Justice toward protecting New Black Panthers. He has golfed and partied to inspire the nation. It's endless really, the good he's done.

    Yay Obama! Four more years!!


    Last edited by Marshabar; 06-29-11 at 10:49 AM.

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    Re: What is your opinion of Barack Obama now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    So... it's our fault he sucks as POTUS?
    Well, it certainly couldn't be his (Obama's) fault.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: What is your opinion of Barack Obama now?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    The question pretty well speaks for itself.
    He has good principals (talking about the real world here, not alinsky conspiracy stuff or muslim/radical christian communism), however, he sucks at negotiation, which means he gives away the store too easily.

    If I had the vote back, I would have voted for Hillary.
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    Re: What is your opinion of Barack Obama now?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    He has good principals (talking about the real world here, not alinsky conspiracy stuff or muslim/radical christian communism), however, he sucks at negotiation, which means he gives away the store too easily.

    If I had the vote back, I would have voted for Hillary.
    I could have told you that back during the election. No one listened to me(and Clinton ran a pathetic campaign too). The best thing that can be said about Obama is he was better than McCain, and better than any one the republicans are running right now. That is damning with faint praise.
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    Re: What is your opinion of Barack Obama now?

    Both Republicans and Democrats are neo-liberals, with only minor differences that are just window dressing for PR disinformation purposes; they are just cliques within business groups who own both 'parties' and essentially just at odds over which criminal enterprises gets to divide the spoils, and more resemble the disputes between mafia gangs over territory and money.

    Paul Street's political bio of Obama, published before the election:

    Paradigm - Barack Obama and the Future of American Politics

    A sample of his, and Z Magazine's, coverage of Obama, a couple of 2007 articles:

    ZCommunications | Obama's Audacious Deference by Paul Street | ZNet Article

    ZCommunications | The Obama Illusion by Paul Street | ZMagazine Article

    " If the Democrats’ candidate in 2008 is Obama, we can be sure that the right-wing Republican noise machine will denounce the nation’s potential first non-white male president as a dangerous “leftist.” The charge will be absurd, something that will hardly stop numerous people on the portside of the narrow U.S. political spectrum from claiming Obama as a fellow “progressive.” Certain to be encouraged by Obama and his handlers, this confusion will reflect the desperation and myopia that shaky thinking and the limited choices of the U.S. electoral system regularly instill in liberals and some squishy near leftists.

    So what sorts of policies and values could one expect from an imagined Obama presidency? There is quite a bit already in Obama’s short national career that has to be placed in the “never mind” category if one is to seriously to believe his claim (cautiously advanced in The Audacity of Hope ) to be a “progressive” concerned with “social and economic justice” and global peace.

    Never Mind

    N ever mind, for example, that Obama was recently hailed as a “Hamiltonian” believer in “limited government” and “free trade” by Republican New York Times columnist David Brooks, who praises Obama for having “a mentality formed by globalization, not the SDS.” Or that he had to be shamed off the “New Democrat Directory” of the corporate-right Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) by the popular left black Internet magazine Black Commentator (Bruce Dixon, “Obama to Have Name Removed From DLC List,” Black Commentator , June 26, 2003).

    Never mind that Obama (consistent with Brooks’s description of him) has lent his support to the aptly named Hamilton Project, formed by corporate-neoliberal Citigroup chair Robert Rubin and “other Wall Street Democrats” to counter populist rebellion against corporatist tendencies within the Democratic Party (David Sirota, “Mr. Obama Goes to Washington,” the Nation , June 26). Or that he lent his politically influential and financially rewarding assistance to neoconservative pro-war Senator Joe Lieberman’s (“D”-CT) struggle against the Democratic antiwar insurgent Ned Lamont. Or that Obama has supported other “mainstream Democrats” fighting antiwar progressives in primary races (see Alexander Cockburn, “Obama’s Game,” the Nation , April 24, 2006). Or that he criticized efforts to enact filibuster proceedings against reactionary Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito.

    Never mind that Obama “dismissively” referred—in a “tone laced with contempt”—to the late progressive and populist U.S. Senator Paul Wellstone as “something of a gadfly.” Or that he chose the neoconservative Lieberman to be his “assigned” mentor in the U.S. Senate. Or that “he posted a long article on the liberal blog Daily Kos criticizing attacks against lawmakers who voted for right-wing Supreme Court nominee John Roberts.” Or that he opposed an amendment to the Bankruptcy Act that would have capped credit card interest rates at 30 percent. Or that he told Time magazine’s Joe Klein last year that he’d never given any thought to Al Gore’s widely discussed proposal to link a “carbon tax” on fossil fuels to targeted tax relief for the nation’s millions of working poor (Joe Klein, “The Fresh Face,” Time , October 17, 2006).

    Never mind that Obama voted for a business-friendly “tort reform” bill that rolls back working peoples’ ability to obtain reasonable redress and compensation from misbehaving corporations (Cockburn; Sirota). Or that Obama claims to oppose the introduction of single-payer national health insurance on the grounds that such a widely supported social-democratic change would lead to employment difficulties for workers in the private insurance industry—at places like Kaiser and Blue Cross Blue Shield (Sirota). Does Obama support the American scourge of racially disparate mass incarceration on the grounds that it provides work for tens of thousands of prison guards? Should the U.S. maintain the illegal operation of Iraq and pour half its federal budget into “defense” because of all the soldiers and other workers that find employment in imperial wars and the military-industrial complex? Does the “progressive” senator really need to be reminded of the large number of socially useful and healthy alternatives that exist for the investment of human labor power at home and abroad—wetlands preservation, urban ecological retrofitting, drug counseling, teaching, infrastructure building and repair, safe and affordable housing construction, the building of windmills and solar power facilities, etc.?

    In an interview with Klein, Obama expressed reservations about a universal health insurance plan recently enacted in Massachusetts, stating his preference for “voluntary” solutions over “government mandates.” The former, he said, is “more consonant with” what he called “the American character”—a position contradicted by regular polling data showing that most Americans support Canadian-style single-payer health insurance.

    Never mind that Obama voted to re-authorize the repressive PATRIOT Act. Or that he voted for the appointment of the war criminal Condaleeza Rice to (of all things) Secretary of State. Or that he opposed Senator Russ Feingold’s (D-WI) move to censure the Bush administration after the president was found to have illegally wiretapped U.S. citizens. Or that he shamefully distanced himself from fellow Illinois Democratic Senator Dick Durbin’s forthright criticism of U.S. torture practices at Guantanamo. Or that he refuses to foreswear the use of first-strike nuclear weapons against Iran.

    Never mind that Obama makes a big point of respectfully listening to key parts of the right wing agenda even though that agenda is well outside majority sentiment (Jacob S. Hacker and Paul Pierson, Off Center: the Republican Revolution and the Erosion of American Democracy ). Or that he joins victim-blaming Republicans in pointing to poor blacks’ “cultural” issues as the cause of concentrated black poverty (Obama, The A udacity of Hope )—not the multiple, well-documented, and interrelated structures, practices and consequences of externally imposed white supremacy and corporate-state capitalism. Or that he claims that blacks have joined the American “socioeconomic mainstream” even as median black household net worth falls to less than eight cents on the median white household dollar. Or that he had this to say on the night after the Congressional mid-term elections, when the criminal and reactionary Cheney-Bush administration’s unpopularity with the American people cost the Republicans their majority in Congress: “If the Democrats don’t show a willingness to work with the president, I think they could be punished in ‘08” (Jeff Zeleni, “Democrats Fight to Say, ‘You’re Welcome,’” New York Times , November 5, 2006)."

    I can't find any legitimate Leftists who supported him. Why the Freepers keep calling him a 'Leftist' when he has far more in common with Republicans than any other gang of neo-liberals is a mystery.

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    Re: What is your opinion of Barack Obama now?

    The most hilarious thing is that those who think that Obama sucks are the same people who thought that GWB was a great and inspired world leader. Doh!
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