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Thread: Can Gay Marriage Bans Infringe Upon Freedom of Religion?

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    Re: Can Gay Marriage Bans Infringe Upon Freedom of Religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The government is not allowed to pass laws establishing a state religion.

    It says nothing about being disallowed to promote religion in a generalized sense.
    So what is all the kerfuffle about prayer in school?

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    Re: Can Gay Marriage Bans Infringe Upon Freedom of Religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    They don't. They're also not supposed to regulate it, which they also don't. And, in Franklin's words: "The power to tax is the power to destroy."
    Seems to me they are promoting religion if religious organizations get benefits that other organizations do not get.

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    Re: Can Gay Marriage Bans Infringe Upon Freedom of Religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spaceman_Spiff View Post
    Whenever the issues of gay marriage and the freedom of religion are discussed it is always in the context of whether allowing gay marriage will infringe on the beliefs of a church that may find it sinful. But with this thread I want to go in another direction.

    Growing up I attended a church that was a member of the United Church of Christ, one of the more liberal branches of Protestantism. A few years the UCC as an organization declared that it would recognize gay marriage and churches could perform them if they chose to do so. Yet I live in Illinois, a state that recognizes many rights to gay couples but still has a law that makes gay marriage illegal. So even if my minister wanted to have a wedding ceremony for a gay couple, the law would prohibit them.

    Can this be considered an infringement on my church's religious freedom?
    No. For any purpose your church wishes, it is free to consider the couple married, regardless if the couple is -legally- married or not.

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    Re: Can Gay Marriage Bans Infringe Upon Freedom of Religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    this is incorrect. your pastor is free to have any ceremony he likes. he simply cannot act in the name of the state to produce a legally binding union.
    But, by allowing one religion to exercise legal control and not others, isn't that elevating one religion over another, in direct violation of the first amendment? Either every faith can do it, or no faiths can do it.
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    Re: Can Gay Marriage Bans Infringe Upon Freedom of Religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Seems to me they are promoting religion if religious organizations get benefits that other organizations do not get.
    What, you mean the fact that religious organizations are allowed to only hire their own members? That's not a special benefit, that's just the government minding its own business.

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