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Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

Is This Rape

  • Yes

    Votes: 61 95.3%
  • No

    Votes: 3 4.7%

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Girl meets guy for the first time. Girl gets drunk and passes out. Guy has sex with her. Girl plays it off and doesn't care.

Is this rape?
 
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She didn't give permission, it's rape. She won't press charges? Whatever.
 
Girl meets guy for the first time. Girl gets drunk and passes out. Guy has sex with her. Girl plays it off and doesn't care.

Is this rape?

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Umm yes. I thought the situation was going to be at least a little ambiguous (like a long-term relationship where they've had sex before). But in that scenario you laid out, yes, it's most definitely rape.
 
Question 2: You've been seeing this girl (not exclusively) for about a month. She nonchalantly tells you about it but doesn't think it's a big deal and likens it to drunk sex. What do you do?
 
Question 2: You've been seeing this girl (not exclusively) for about a month. She nonchalantly tells you about it but doesn't think it's a big deal and likens it to drunk sex. What do you do?

I'd run away from her as fast as possible. I don't know what her situation is, but it's obvious that she is either repressing how she actually feels about it, or she's so desensitized to that sort of thing that she truly doesn't care about being raped. Either way she probably has a lot of psychological issues that I don't care to be involved with.
 
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From what I understand this is rape in every state, however if she is not going to report it, it's like it never happened until she turn up with an STD or unwanted pregnancy, then Mr. Cool is screwed.
 
Question 2: You've been seeing this girl (not exclusively) for about a month. She nonchalantly tells you about it but doesn't think it's a big deal and likens it to drunk sex. What do you do?

Well, nothing. If she doesn't feel like reporting it, that's that. But she's obviously someone with a lot of issues that I probably wouldn't want to date. *sings* "If I were gaaaayyy"

That's rape pretty much everywhere. Non-consensual sex is rape. Doesn't matter if he put something in her drink, or waited until she passed out from drinking itself. Being an opportunistic rapist is not "better" or "less rape-y" than being an aggressive rapist.
 
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It's rape. No question.
 
Yes, it is rape. And you will get convicted if she presses charges. Very quickly. It's actually a textbook example. *looks over at said textbook*
 
Yes, it's rape. It's just a rape that hasn't been reported.

How lame must your sex life be to have sex with a totally unresponsive girl who has passed out. Don't they have blowup dolls that could fill that void?
 
Yes, it's rape. It's just a rape that hasn't been reported.

How lame must your sex life be to have sex with a totally unresponsive girl who has passed out. Don't they have blowup dolls that could fill that void?

Take it easy. I took his question to be a hypothetical, not necessarily something from his real life. If it is from his real life, then I'm concerned.
 
Take it easy. I took his question to be a hypothetical, not necessarily something from his real life. If it is from his real life, then I'm concerned.

I didn't do it, it happened to a girl I've been seeing and she just told me about it today.
 
Was the guy drunk too, because he may have not been able to understand what he was doing... If her alcohol consumption means she isn't responsible for the sex, then he isn't either.
 
Was the guy drunk too, because he may have not been able to understand what he was doing... If her alcohol consumption means she isn't responsible for the sex, then he isn't either.

Sounds to me like it wasn't just a matter of her not understanding what she was doing...if she was passed out then she wasn't participating at all.
 
Girl meets guy for the first time. Girl gets drunk and passes out. Guy has sex with her. Girl plays it off and doesn't care.

Is this rape?

Unless you can make her to give you a real blow job, it is rape.

WTF?
 
Lack of consent = rape.

I'm a fan of enthusiastic consent for this reason. Lack of a clear yes = no in my books.
 
The whole issue about having sex with an unconscious woman is that she isn't capable of denying consent-- essentially that you don't know if it's okay or not, and that in most instances it wouldn't be. If she doesn't mind, and you know that she doesn't mind, then she has given her consent in advance and her current stuporous state is of no bearing.
 
Girl meets guy for the first time. Girl gets drunk and passes out. Guy has sex with her. Girl plays it off and doesn't care.

Is this rape?

Yes and very very definitely it IS rape - and would be considered so by any jury

This is because she did NOT give permission

Now you leave your house for the day and forget to lock a door - come home and find someone inside who has eaten out of your fridge and passed out on your sofa

Is this still break and entering because you left an access open?
 
Was the guy drunk too, because he may have not been able to understand what he was doing... If her alcohol consumption means she isn't responsible for the sex, then he isn't either.

It is called "drunkards droop" for a reason

If he can get it up then he can control it
 
Girl meets guy for the first time. Girl gets drunk and passes out. Guy has sex with her. Girl plays it off and doesn't care.

Is this rape?

Apart from the rape, this points to life issues that she needs to deal with. Either learning not to leave a drink unattended with someone she's just met while on a first date or that she gets so drunk on a first that she was raped and unaware or that she has a serious drink problem, especially if she simply likens this to drunk sex.

Without knowing her, I think she may have had something put into her drink and the fact she's passing it off means she hasn't come to terms with what happens or is in denial as she maybe felt she could have trusted the guy. Either way, STD tests are very much in order and if you're going to stay with her you'll have to get used to the way she drinks and events occur if she likes to go off on girls nights or other nights without you.
 
I'll play devil's advocate here since my wife and I had a similar encounter (after we had been married already). I think I have shared this story before on this board as well. We were both in a friend of ours wedding party. Drinks at the reception were free for the wedding party, and we both drank our fair share. We went back to the hotel room, had some sex and passed out. I woke up a few hours later with some "needs" I started caressing my wife, and her body starts responding in kind. So I get in her, and then she wakes up and asks me what the hell I am doing. I thought she had "consented" through non-verbal body responses. She claims she was passed out and had no idea. Was I raping her? By this definition in this thread, I guess. Was there intent to rape? Absolutely not.

In drunken situations like this, how many guys are going to ask for verbal consent? Can one interpret non-verbal actions as consent?

It's times like these you wish for a Tucker like penis. In court, you could just pull down your pants to prove that rape was impossible.
 
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