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Thread: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Yes, it is rape. If she doesn't or can't consent then anything sexual you may do to her is rape. It's no different than using a date rape drug imo.
    I agree, it's like using the date rape drug... and I actually know a girl who went through something like this and didn't care. She was in high school, so she was a minor, and about 3 adult men raped her after drugging her. Her reaction to it was, "I got some action." It didn't bother her at all, but she was never really a normal girl.

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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    If you yell surprise first and she responds it's not rape. /End thread
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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Why should it be? Maybe she was hot into him and would have said yes and had a damned good time if only she didn't have one too many? Maybe her only regret was that she wasn't lucid to enjoy it?

    Don't put thoughts and feelings into the mouth and mind of a female whose been in such a situation. . . either way you're going with that - don't speak for someone else regardless of the situation.
    Would have said yes, but didn't say yes... your words indicate you understand that she didn't say yes, didn't consent.

    I am not going to sit here and tell people how they should feel about being abused, molested, or even date raped... but I am not going to redefine the reality of somebody being abused, molested, or date raped based on their feelings.

    If she isn't that bothered by this incident, it doesn't suddenly make his actions ok and acceptable. Her none concern for herself and her own safety is very telling about her. She doesn't seem to be in an emotionally healthy state at all.
    Last edited by SheWolf; 06-28-11 at 01:48 AM.

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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    I agree with this. Unless there's prior consent, it would be rape.
    I don't think there is such a thing as prior consent... A person has to be awake and conscious to participate

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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    ...yell surprise first...
    Isn't that standard foreplay?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I don't think there is such a thing as prior consent...
    Why not? Living wills stand.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Why not? Living wills stand.
    How would you even define prior consent?

    That seems a little murky... She's my wife, so I can't rape her? Would this extend beyond death like living wills, necrophilia anybody?

    Both people have to be conscious to consent... there are stds and prevention concerns, i phones, the risk of that person inviting other individuals to have sex with you, etc. If you make a video of yourself engaging in sex with somebody how is not conscious, that looks like rape and that is rape. For all the law enforcement knows, you drugged them.

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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    How would you even define prior consent?
    Other than consent given prior to the act?
    IDK.
    Idk what form it would take either. Not a thing I have given much thought to. But it certainly seems capable of existing.

    I gave prior consent to have some guy take a knife to me when I was rendered unconscious. No one seemed to bat an eye. Why couldn't I give permission for someone to play with my weiner after I drink too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Would this extend beyond death like living wills, necrophilia anybody?
    I am pretty sure that any contract that involves breaking the law, like necrophilia, is un-enforceable and null.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I'm planning on breaking it off tonight, but offering her support in the case that she does need help either psychologically or in pursuing charges. I'm going to recommend her a therapist as well.

    I wasn't able to sleep at all tonight and I've been feeling like throwing up all day. This is the worst thing that has ever happened to anyone I know and she doesn't even really seem to care. It's messed up.
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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Whoa! The act is rape. She was unconscious and unable to give consent. How she feels about it after the fact is a different matter.
    If it's no big deal, it's no big deal. There's a big difference between feeling violated but being too ashamed to speak up, and not feeling violated at all. If she says it's just "drunken sex" and doesn't have a problem with it, then she sure as Hell doesn't need everyone telling her that she's a rape victim, dammit, and needs to start acting like one. That is hers to decide; if you don't respect her authority to do so, then you are not respecting her authority to make her own sexual decisions for herself. Maybe she likes it, and that's what she's trying to tell KC. Maybe she just really doesn't care.

    That's her right, and I don't think it says anything bad about her as a person.

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Unless she has specifically said in advance that you can have sex with her while she is unconscious, then you don't have consent. Doesn't matter if you've had sex with her dozens of times before.
    Rules to live by, to be certain. But if she says it's okay afterwards, you're not a rapist-- you just took a hell of a risk of becoming one. I definitely wouldn't want to have anything to do with this asshole, because he took advantage when he didn't know, but that's on him. Only a matter of time until he does it to someone who does mind, and doubtless he's done so many times in the past. He's scum.

    She just has a drinking problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Also... how boring would it be to have sex with an unconscious person.
    Well, on a scale of one to ten, with one being Saturday night alone time and ten being the most awe-inspiring feats of carnal prowess known to man or god alike, it's still a two.

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    How am I being judgmental and critical? What are you talking about?
    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I'm not breaking it off because she was raped. I'm breaking it off because she has no self respect, because she thinks that she deserved it and/or doesn't even care that it happened. I'm not criticizing her for that, I'm offering to help her seek treatment and am fully supportive, but I'm not going to be in a relationship with a girl like that.
    That. That is how you are being judgmental and critical. You know her better than we do, so I'm not going to claim that her self-respect is just fine, but it could be. You are basing this entire assessment of her character on your interpretation of how she should have reacted to something that happened to her. You go on ahead and do what you think is best for you, but it looks like you're being more than a little unfair to her here and you really should stop telling yourself that it's for her own good.

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