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Thread: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    KC, your message box is full. And what the heck, I can say it out here. She may be an adult survivor. I know there was a time where I thought I was good for one thing, and that was it. I was incredibly promiscuous. It went hand-in-hand with not believing I had a right to say no. And when that's where one is at, there's a major tendency to discount 'self'.

    Not saying that's the case with her, but I can see it fitting.

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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Oh sure - because that's an intricate part of being diagnosed as clinically insane.
    And what is it when people judge one individual based on the actions of others around them?

    I've had some pretty ****ed up situations go on with me involved - or just on the outside - and I don't care at all because *I've moved on* - physically, mentally, emotionally. I was a different person back then. . . apparently some people would rather me and others like me suffer endlessly and torment ourselves nightly instead. . . geesh! Why *can't* people move on and forget?

    *edit: you know what - now that I'm thinking about it - maybe this girl needs to haul ass away from you, Khayembii Communique, because you're the one coming onto a forum, spreading her personal life, and debating how you should approach your relationship with her because of something someone else did to her in her past . . . perhaps that makes you untrustworthy and vile? Obviously you can't keep secrets.*

    When I say "don't care," I mean they are ambivalent about it being done to them in general. You, obviously, were not. You've just managed to make peace with the fact that it happened.

    I doubt you'd be okay with blacking out right now and just letting things happen.
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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    The whole issue about having sex with an unconscious woman is that she isn't capable of denying consent-- essentially that you don't know if it's okay or not, and that in most instances it wouldn't be. If she doesn't mind, and you know that she doesn't mind, then she has given her consent in advance and her current stuporous state is of no bearing.
    I agree with this. Unless there's prior consent, it would be rape.
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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Girl meets guy for the first time. Girl gets drunk and passes out. Guy has sex with her.
    This is rape until...

    Girl plays it off and doesn't care.
    ...this is when it became consensual.

    If, after the fact, she doesn't care...then she consented. Now, I agree it is a scum bag thing to do. I agree that by doing it the man puts himself at great risk of being accused and convicted of rape. But if she doesn't care, she consents.

    That is not to say that if she doesn't report it she consents...that's not the same thing.
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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    The whole issue about having sex with an unconscious woman is that she isn't capable of denying consent-- essentially that you don't know if it's okay or not, and that in most instances it wouldn't be. If she doesn't mind, and you know that she doesn't mind, then she has given her consent in advance and her current stuporous state is of no bearing.
    Unless she has specifically said in advance that you can have sex with her while she is unconscious, then you don't have consent. Doesn't matter if you've had sex with her dozens of times before.

    Also... how boring would it be to have sex with an unconscious person.

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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    In general, if you have sex with a girl who is passed out, yeah it's rape. Clearly she could not consent.

    However, a scenario like Crippler's is obviously possible and I wouldn't call that rape. But there we're talking about a married couple. If you're out in the world of one night stands and random hook ups, passed out chicks are off limits.

    The idea of some women not caring about this struck me as odd, but then I thought about it. I imagine myself as a single dude fooling around with some random hottie. If I passed out before the deed was done and she was still able to have sex with me, I wouldn't freak out about it. Like Aunt Spiker said, I'd just regret that I wasn't awake to enjoy it! Honestly guys, how many of you, if you were already into the girl and wanted to have sex with her, would freak out if you found she had sex with you after you passed out (assuming that was physically possible). I don't think many men would have a problem with that. Again, assuming you knew the girl and were planning on going for it yourself.
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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    This is why I'd love to see alcohol somehow eradicated or very firmly banned.

    When drunk people do stupid things, because they're drunk.

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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    This is why I'd love to see alcohol somehow eradicated or very firmly banned.

    When drunk people do stupid things, because they're drunk.
    Tried that - didn't work. . . oh well.

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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    This is why I'd love to see alcohol somehow eradicated or very firmly banned.

    When drunk people do stupid things, because they're drunk.
    That worked out so well last time we tried it. Widespread disregard for the law. Massive corruption. A thriving black market that fueled the rise of a criminal cartel. And little, if any impact on the amount of alcohol people consumed. That's a policy that needs to be revived!
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    Re: Is having sex with a passed out girl rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    That worked out so well last time we tried it. Widespread disregard for the law. Massive corruption. A thriving black market that fueled the rise of a criminal cartel. And little, if any impact on the amount of alcohol people consumed. That's a policy that needs to be revived!
    When will people understand that prohibition doesn't work?
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