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Why are many people grossed out by homosexuality?

Why are many people grossed out by homosexuality?

  • It's a learned bigoted reaction that can be unlearned.

    Votes: 12 46.2%

  • It's a natural reaction.

    Votes: 9 34.6%

  • Not enough is known about it to explain it.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other (please elaborate)

    Votes: 5 19.2%
  • Total voters
    26
roguenuke said:
Why not? Some states already mandate a fertility test for some couples (first cousins) to ensure that if they are below the age of 55/65 (depending on the state), they cannot procreate. If they can procreate, they cannot get a legal marriage.
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They used to require a blood test to ensure that both partners had the same RH factor.
 
Jerry said:
Right, no I understand. Hate crime still needs be to be taken off the books.

If you assault me, it really doesn't matter if it's because you just want my wallet or (as is typical for SD) get some measure or revenge for what my white ancestors did to your 'native ancestors.



Mhmm, what I was arguing against was this notion that if hate crimes were erased, that everyone would be able to start beating up on minorities. You're not saying anything here which is against that point.
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Right...what I was saying was that many crimes do factor in motivation but no one seem to care about them but for some reason people care that hate crimes factor in motivation. Also i dont think anyone is arguing that if hate crimes were erased that everyone would start beating up on minorities.
 
Jerry said:
A couple years ago SD looked at similar regulation, but we decided we didn't need yet another crime to charge the general population of PineRidge with, so we let it go. They already have so many highschool dropouts, meth addicts and various felons, adding to the list didn't seem like it would accomplish anything.
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There's no crime involved here. In those states that require some proof that the couple can't procreate because the two are first cousins, they simply deny them a marriage license, just as they do same sex couples in most places (all those states that have these particular laws, also have anti-SSM laws) if the couple cannot prove that they cannot have children with each other.
 
Omgitsme said:
Right...what I was saying was that many crimes do factor in motivation but no one seem to care about them but for some reason people care that hate crimes factor in motivation.
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I know, but that little piece of trivia doesn't have anything to do with anything anyone was saying. It wasn't part of of a point or counter point, it didn't support or counter anyone's argument, or introduce a new angle. It was just a neutral stand alone statement with no real point or purpose in being said.

So....idk if you wanted to talk about the thread topic, but this would be the 3rd redundancy on the tangent, which began in post 33 with the claim that Christians were out to murder gays. I don't know if you wanted to stick with the OPs topic, address the tangent, or what, and frankly at this point I don't care, either.
 
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Jerry said:
Hey man, people murder people for all kinds of crazy **** all the time. What you do not see in America is the specifically endorsed practice by the majority of the population and even the State to brutally execute gays. That's what you people take for granted. That's why you have no right to bitch about ****. You can go out in public and be openly gay, hold a job, have a live, have a 'partner', buy a house and live together, without fear that every able body in your local community is going to kill you.

You have nothing to complain about.
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Only about thirty percent of the gay community hasn’t reported to have been harassed
Hate Crimes against Homosexuals

Yeah we have nothing to complain about.

Who says that I am taking the freedoms of this country for granted? I know that its worse in other countries but that doesnt excuse this country of anything. So yes I do have the right to "bitch" about not being completely equal to that of a straight person. And about that not living in fear that everybody in your local community is going to hurt you thing see above. And there is more to add.

Up to 56 percent of transgender people report having been fired and up to 47 percent report having been denied employment, says MTPC. Up to 21 percent report having been verbally or physically harassed in the workplace.
http://news.change.org/stories/i-am-trans-people-speak-campaign-highlights-trans-lives

31% of GLBT students had missed at least an entire day of school in the past month because they felt unsafe based on their sexual orientation
http://safezone.slu.edu/downloads/board.hate.pdf

You know full well that we have much to complain about.
 
OscarB63 said:
They used to require a blood test to ensure that both partners had the same RH factor.
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Yes. But there are 5 states in the US that require that 1st cousins who wish to marry have to prove that they cannot procreate in order to get a marriage license in those states. I was responding to the post that was made that asked if people should be required to prove that they can procreate by showing that some states, in fact, ask that certain couples prove that they cannot procreate in order to be able to get a legal marriage.
 
You seem to be confusing motive with culpability.

As you go from manslaughter to murder its dealing less with motive and more with the culpability, specifically that one who intends to kill is more culpable for that act than someone whose intent was benign but resulted in death.

IE, someone that shoots someone they dislike and another person who punches really hard while doing routing boxing with someone they like have different degree's of culpability. Their motive...they dislike the person...for performing the action may be the same. However, one act was done with the intent and reasonable expectation to kill while the other act was not.

You are correct that in cases motive comes into play with sentencing. However, it comes into play with regards to sentencing within the guidelines of that particular crime. IE, a judge could show leeway for someone who violated a law but for a good motive, giving them punishment on the lower end of the guideline for that charge. Likewise, the motive for an act could cause a judge to sentence on the harsher end of the guideline.

Where Hate Crimes are different is that they act OUTSIDE of the guidelines, adding ADDITIONAL penalty to whatever crime it is. While motive in other cases simply help determine where on the spectrum you may be punished, hate crimes interjects an entirely different scale. That's what's the issue with them. The fact that two people could be charged with pretty much identical crimes done in identical ways in almost identical cases, but in one case the individual happens to call the victim a racial slur and thus one guy gets significantly more years in prison then the other.

Someone being attacked because they're white, black, gay, short, old, fat, love glee (wait I already said gay), whatever isn't any worse or make that person any more special or deserves any more punishment then if someone did it because you owed them money, you hit on their girl, you talked crap about their mother, they wanted your money, etc.
 
Zyphlin said:
Someone being attacked because they're white, black, gay, short, old, fat, love glee (wait I already said gay), whatever isn't any worse or make that person any more special or deserves any more punishment then if someone did it because you owed them money, you hit on their girl, you talked crap about their mother, they wanted your money, etc.
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Wait; what?
 
Omgitsme said:
Only about thirty percent of the gay community hasn’t reported to have been harassed
Hate Crimes against Homosexuals

Yeah we have nothing to complain about.

Who says that I am taking the freedoms of this country for granted? I know that its worse in other countries but that doesnt excuse this country of anything. So yes I do have the right to "bitch" about not being completely equal to that of a straight person. And about that not living in fear that everybody in your local community is going to hurt you thing see above. And there is more to add.

Up to 56 percent of transgender people report having been fired and up to 47 percent report having been denied employment, says MTPC. Up to 21 percent report having been verbally or physically harassed in the workplace.
http://news.change.org/stories/i-am-trans-people-speak-campaign-highlights-trans-lives

31% of GLBT students had missed at least an entire day of school in the past month because they felt unsafe based on their sexual orientation
http://safezone.slu.edu/downloads/board.hate.pdf

You know full well that we have much to complain about.
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Remember the context of our exchange, that this started with the claim that Christians are like Islamists in their pursuit of persecuting gays.

Islamists wouldn't let you live long enough to decide you're not going to report something.

Christians have an opinion, but we don't seek you out and kill you. Our churches even preach tolerance, so most of us don't even make an issue of it verbally.

The level of crime gays experience in America is not significantly greater then the level of crime anyone else in America experiences.

You're nothing special. In fact, the level of crime gays endure being relatively the same as everyone else is one thing that makes you equal to everyone else.
 
BDBoop said:
The State of Insanity?
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Sorta, I live in Florida.

Federal laws. While there is no federal law that prohibits this type of discrimination in private employment, an executive order specifically outlaws discrimination based on sexual orientation in the federal government.

State laws. Seventeen states and the District of Columbia have laws that currently prohibit sexual orientation discrimination in private employment: California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, and Wisconsin. Some of these states also specifically prohibit discrimination based on gender identity. (In addition, six states have laws prohibiting sexual orientation discrimination in public workplaces only: Colorado, Delaware, Indiana, Michigan, Montana, and Pennsylvania.)
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Zyphlin said:
essentially saying that people being attacked for who they are doesn't make the action any worse than someone being attacked for what they do
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Sorry - my attempt at humor. Everything that is bolded describes me.
 
Zyphlin said:
essentially saying that people being attacked for who they are doesn't make the action any worse than someone being attacked for what they do
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what? you mean getting the **** kicked out of you because you stopped at the wrong ATM doesn't hurt less than getting the **** kicked out of you because you are gay? say it ain't so.
 
I mean, sex in general is pretty gross.

Unless I feel like having it, in which case I ignore the grossness.

I never feel like having sex with a dude. So it's always gross to me.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Is (bleep!)ing women a part of your job description then?

If not, why do they care?
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Morality clause. Behavior not appropriate or becoming of an employee of the company.

Basically, if someone from work were to see me kissing my boyfriend in public that could be construed as "immoral" behavior and be grounds for dismissal.
 
Redress said:
Why? My gay mother is one of the best people I know. Why would you judge some one on something that does not affect you?
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Duh! Did you see the LOL?

Joke, joke, joke!
 
Kandahar said:
You know, that "love the sinner, hate the sin" crap gets bandied around so much that one would think Jesus actually said it. His message was more like "love the sinner, forgive the sin." :roll:
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followed by the "go forth and sin no more" part...
 
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