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Why are many people grossed out by homosexuality?

Why are many people grossed out by homosexuality?

  • It's a learned bigoted reaction that can be unlearned.

    Votes: 12 46.2%

  • It's a natural reaction.

    Votes: 9 34.6%

  • Not enough is known about it to explain it.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other (please elaborate)

    Votes: 5 19.2%
  • Total voters
    26
LuckyDan said:
If they want to become parents they can marry a person of the opposite sex. End of discussion.
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Do I have to go over this, AGAIN? OK, this is not an equal situation. A heterosexual can marry any willing individual that they are attracted in the context of their sexual orientation. A homosexual cannot. The argument that things are equal because a homosexual has the same rights as a heterosexual because they can also marry someone of the opposite sex has, thus, been rendered absurd, irrelevant, and invalid. Again.

End of discussion.
 
LuckyDan said:
If they want to become parents they can marry a person of the opposite sex. End of discussion.
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P.S. It's not the end of the discussion, either. Gay couples are doing it - and as well as straight couples. And you don't get to decide when the discussion is over. Tolerant people everywhere disagree.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Do I have to go over this, AGAIN? OK, this is not an equal situation. A heterosexual can marry any willing individual that they are attracted in the context of their sexual orientation. A homosexual cannot. The argument that things are equal because a homosexual has the same rights as a heterosexual because they can also marry someone of the opposite sex has, thus, been rendered absurd, irrelevant, and invalid. Again.

End of discussion.
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Captain. Please stop wasting your time with me. We ran out of patience with one another long ago.
 
LuckyDan said:
What kids?
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You said if a LGBT person wants to have kids they should marry someone of the opposite sex. Obviously that's going to lead to a bad home life for the kids.
 
Redress said:
Too bad about 10 % so far of this country legally allows same sex couples to get married, and that number is growing. Too bad the courts are in the last couple years unanimous is stating that marriage is a right same sex couples should have. Too bad popular opinion in the country is shifting fairly quickly, with most people now supporting SSM. Your proclamation is failing, miserably.
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Too bad those kids will wonder who they parents are.
 
Your Star said:
You said if a LGBT person wants to have kids they should marry someone of the opposite sex. Obviously that's going to lead to a bad home life for the kids.
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How so? What do kids care of their parents sexual desires? The kid just wants his parents.
 
LuckyDan said:
How so? What do kids care of their parents sexual desires? The kid just wants his parents.
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They obviously wouldn't love each other, and their relationship would be dysfunctional, which would obviously hurt the child. It is best to be raised by two loving parents, no matter what gender they are. This has been proven over, and over.
 
LuckyDan said:
Captain. Please stop wasting your time with me. We ran out of patience with one another long ago.
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Nah. You don't need to respond to me. But if you post something incorrect, I will quote-post the correction. If you would prefer I not do that, do not post incorrect information.

Btw... I NEVER run out of patience with anyone. I'm the most stubborn creature in the known and unknown universe. But do remember my purpose here. It is NOT to change anyone to my way of thinking. It is just to present accurate information so, if they choose, people can be better informed. One agreeing with me or changing their mind to my position is not something I strive for.
 
LuckyDan said:
Not buying. Sorry.

I'm in what would have been called an interracial marriage not long ago. We're just fine, as are the black-white couples I've known over the years.
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You would not have been fine together in my grandparents' house or some of my inlaws. They are completely against interracial relationships. Both my father and my husband were asked what race/color my mother and I were when parents/bio father were informed of the coming marriage. It is not universally accepted as "okay" to be in an interracial marriage. Legal marriage does not force acceptance.
 
LuckyDan said:
Too bad those kids will wonder who they parents are.
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No. They will wonder who's DNA combined to create them. So what?

Btw... a parent is not defined solely by someone who has intercourse and conceives or causes conception.
 
LuckyDan said:
Too bad those kids will wonder who they parents are.
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Why would they be wondering? It is quite likely that it will be explained to them once they are old enough.

Do you think it would be better if they were told the stork brought them?
 
i'm sure the OP is enjoying this immensely and i'm sure everyone has realised that he/she has not participated in the thread since post one.
 
Your Star said:
They obviously wouldn't love each other, and their relationship would be dysfunctional, which would obviously hurt the child. It is best to be raised by two loving parents, no matter what gender they are. This has been proven over, and over.
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It was written in Ms about 50 years ago, I'll give you that.

When you were a little girl, did you lie awake at night and ask, "Gee, I hope mommy and daddy truly love each other. I just can't be happy or content until I'm sure."
 
roguenuke said:
Why would they be wondering? It is quite likely that it will be explained to them once they are old enough.

Do you think it would be better if they were told the stork brought them?
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I think it would be better if both were present in their life from day one. Do you disagree?
 
LuckyDan said:
It was written in Ms about 50 years ago, I'll give you that.

When you were a little girl, did you lie awake at night and ask, "Gee, I hope mommy and daddy truly love each other. I just can't be happy or content until I'm sure."
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A couple in love, is more likely to have a stable relationship, which is conducive to raising a child. A couple that doesn't love each other, and is only in the relationship for something other then them wanting to be with each other is going to cause problems, and the kid is going to suffer because of it.
 
roguenuke said:
You would not have been fine together in my grandparents' house or some of my inlaws. They are completely against interracial relationships. Both my father and my husband were asked what race/color my mother and I were when parents/bio father were informed of the coming marriage. It is not universally accepted as "okay" to be in an interracial marriage. Legal marriage does not force acceptance.
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And I'm sorry for that. Hell, I'm even in sympathy with that. I was once in love with a black girl. My family was happy I was in love. Hers couldn't handle the idea that she was seeing a white boy.

Which serves my point - legalization will not bring acceptance.
 
LuckyDan said:
I think it would be better if both were present in their life from day one. Do you disagree?
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Yes. Because it is quite likely that whoever was the missing parent did not want to be that child's parent, for whatever reason.

I am completely for anybody providing a stable, loving home to a child, no matter if they are the child's biological parents or not. At least if extra efforts are involved in making the child, we know that the child isn't a result of an oops and the parents are just raising the child because they felt they had to rather than they wanted to.
 
LuckyDan said:
It was written in Ms about 50 years ago, I'll give you that.

When you were a little girl, did you lie awake at night and ask, "Gee, I hope mommy and daddy truly love each other. I just can't be happy or content until I'm sure."
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What, you think kids are stupid? You don't think they notice when their parents are unhappy?

I knew kids (both when I was one and more recently) who knew their parents were divorcing before anyone else did, and knew they were unhappy the whole time. And yeah, it does matter. The kid always thinks it's their fault. And sadly, it often is in a certain way, or at least it's still going on because they have a child together and they feel obligated. They know that too. Often times parents lie to themselves and say it's better to keep the deception going. It often isn't. That's a miserable way to grow up. Homes get turned inside out by this kind of thing all the time.

In part because people like you refuse to accept them as they are. And that I can live with. That's on you. But letting the government do it too has got to be the line.
 
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LuckyDan said:
And I'm sorry for that. Hell, I'm even in sympathy with that. I was once in love with a black girl. My family was happy I was in love. Hers couldn't handle the idea that she was seeing a white boy.

Which serves my point - legalization will not bring acceptance.
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My parents aren't concerned about it, neither are my husband and I. The acceptance is coming more and more with each new generation.

The LGBT community isn't looking for social acceptance through legalization of same sex marriage. They are looking for equal treatment under the law. To be able to have the same treatment for their relationship that I receive for my relationship when they are at the same level of commitment. It is needed and the right thing to do.
 
MistressNomad said:
What, you think kids are stupid? You don't think they notice when their parents are unhappy?

I knew kids (both when I was one and more recently) who knew their parents were divorcing before anyone else did, and knew they were unhappy the whole time. And yeah, it does matter. The kid always thinks it's their fault. And sadly, it often is in a certain way, or at least it's still going on because they have a child together and they feel obligated. They know that too. Often times parents lie to themselves and say it's better to keep the deception going. It often isn't. That's a miserable way to grow up. Homes get turned inside out by this kind of thing all the time.

In part because people like you refuse to accept them as they are. And that I can live with. That's on you. But letting the government do it too has got to be the line.
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Of course the kid knows when the parents are fighting. My argument is not about combative parents. I'm talking about the kid's notion of whether the parent is "fulfilled" or "happy in the marriage." I'm arguing against the sad old feminist line (and aren't they all sad and old?) that it's a bad thing for a child to "grow up in a loveless marriage," as if the kid cares whether or not his parents are in love. He just wants them together and, yes, not fighting.
 
roguenuke said:
My parents aren't concerned about it, neither are my husband and I. The acceptance is coming more and more with each new generation.

The LGBT community isn't looking for social acceptance through legalization of same sex marriage. They are looking for equal treatment under the law. To be able to have the same treatment for their relationship that I receive for my relationship when they are at the same level of commitment. It is needed and the right thing to do.
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I really need to dedicate a hotkey to post this.

There already IS equal treatment under the law. Any man and woman can marry. Equal. Same. No discrimination based on anything.
 
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