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    Re: Why are many people grossed out by homosexuality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Hey man, people murder people for all kinds of crazy **** all the time. What you do not see in America is the specifically endorsed practice by the majority of the population and even the State to brutally execute gays. That's what you people take for granted. That's why you have no right to bitch about ****. You can go out in public and be openly gay, hold a job, have a live, have a 'partner', buy a house and live together, without fear that every able body in your local community is going to kill you.

    You have nothing to complain about.
    Only about thirty percent of the gay community hasn’t reported to have been harassed
    Hate Crimes against Homosexuals

    Yeah we have nothing to complain about.

    Who says that I am taking the freedoms of this country for granted? I know that its worse in other countries but that doesnt excuse this country of anything. So yes I do have the right to "bitch" about not being completely equal to that of a straight person. And about that not living in fear that everybody in your local community is going to hurt you thing see above. And there is more to add.

    Up to 56 percent of transgender people report having been fired and up to 47 percent report having been denied employment, says MTPC. Up to 21 percent report having been verbally or physically harassed in the workplace.
    http://news.change.org/stories/i-am-...ts-trans-lives

    31% of GLBT students had missed at least an entire day of school in the past month because they felt unsafe based on their sexual orientation
    http://safezone.slu.edu/downloads/board.hate.pdf

    You know full well that we have much to complain about.

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    Re: Why are many people grossed out by homosexuality?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    They used to require a blood test to ensure that both partners had the same RH factor.
    Yes. But there are 5 states in the US that require that 1st cousins who wish to marry have to prove that they cannot procreate in order to get a marriage license in those states. I was responding to the post that was made that asked if people should be required to prove that they can procreate by showing that some states, in fact, ask that certain couples prove that they cannot procreate in order to be able to get a legal marriage.
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    Re: Why are many people grossed out by homosexuality?

    You seem to be confusing motive with culpability.

    As you go from manslaughter to murder its dealing less with motive and more with the culpability, specifically that one who intends to kill is more culpable for that act than someone whose intent was benign but resulted in death.

    IE, someone that shoots someone they dislike and another person who punches really hard while doing routing boxing with someone they like have different degree's of culpability. Their motive...they dislike the person...for performing the action may be the same. However, one act was done with the intent and reasonable expectation to kill while the other act was not.

    You are correct that in cases motive comes into play with sentencing. However, it comes into play with regards to sentencing within the guidelines of that particular crime. IE, a judge could show leeway for someone who violated a law but for a good motive, giving them punishment on the lower end of the guideline for that charge. Likewise, the motive for an act could cause a judge to sentence on the harsher end of the guideline.

    Where Hate Crimes are different is that they act OUTSIDE of the guidelines, adding ADDITIONAL penalty to whatever crime it is. While motive in other cases simply help determine where on the spectrum you may be punished, hate crimes interjects an entirely different scale. That's what's the issue with them. The fact that two people could be charged with pretty much identical crimes done in identical ways in almost identical cases, but in one case the individual happens to call the victim a racial slur and thus one guy gets significantly more years in prison then the other.

    Someone being attacked because they're white, black, gay, short, old, fat, love glee (wait I already said gay), whatever isn't any worse or make that person any more special or deserves any more punishment then if someone did it because you owed them money, you hit on their girl, you talked crap about their mother, they wanted your money, etc.

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    Re: Why are many people grossed out by homosexuality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Someone being attacked because they're white, black, gay, short, old, fat, love glee (wait I already said gay), whatever isn't any worse or make that person any more special or deserves any more punishment then if someone did it because you owed them money, you hit on their girl, you talked crap about their mother, they wanted your money, etc.
    Wait; what?

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    Re: Why are many people grossed out by homosexuality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You can go out in public and be openly gay, hold a job...
    My job will fire people for being gay. I'm in a state where that is perfectly legal.
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    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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    Re: Why are many people grossed out by homosexuality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    Only about thirty percent of the gay community hasnít reported to have been harassed
    Hate Crimes against Homosexuals

    Yeah we have nothing to complain about.

    Who says that I am taking the freedoms of this country for granted? I know that its worse in other countries but that doesnt excuse this country of anything. So yes I do have the right to "bitch" about not being completely equal to that of a straight person. And about that not living in fear that everybody in your local community is going to hurt you thing see above. And there is more to add.

    Up to 56 percent of transgender people report having been fired and up to 47 percent report having been denied employment, says MTPC. Up to 21 percent report having been verbally or physically harassed in the workplace.
    http://news.change.org/stories/i-am-...ts-trans-lives

    31% of GLBT students had missed at least an entire day of school in the past month because they felt unsafe based on their sexual orientation
    http://safezone.slu.edu/downloads/board.hate.pdf

    You know full well that we have much to complain about.
    Remember the context of our exchange, that this started with the claim that Christians are like Islamists in their pursuit of persecuting gays.

    Islamists wouldn't let you live long enough to decide you're not going to report something.

    Christians have an opinion, but we don't seek you out and kill you. Our churches even preach tolerance, so most of us don't even make an issue of it verbally.

    The level of crime gays experience in America is not significantly greater then the level of crime anyone else in America experiences.

    You're nothing special. In fact, the level of crime gays endure being relatively the same as everyone else is one thing that makes you equal to everyone else.

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    Re: Why are many people grossed out by homosexuality?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    My job will fire people for being gay. I'm in a state where that is perfectly legal.
    The State of Insanity?

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    Re: Why are many people grossed out by homosexuality?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Wait; what?
    essentially saying that people being attacked for who they are doesn't make the action any worse than someone being attacked for what they do

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    Re: Why are many people grossed out by homosexuality?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    The State of Insanity?
    The state of denial is more likely
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    Re: Why are many people grossed out by homosexuality?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    The State of Insanity?
    Sorta, I live in Florida.

    Federal laws. While there is no federal law that prohibits this type of discrimination in private employment, an executive order specifically outlaws discrimination based on sexual orientation in the federal government.

    State laws. Seventeen states and the District of Columbia have laws that currently prohibit sexual orientation discrimination in private employment: California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, and Wisconsin. Some of these states also specifically prohibit discrimination based on gender identity. (In addition, six states have laws prohibiting sexual orientation discrimination in public workplaces only: Colorado, Delaware, Indiana, Michigan, Montana, and Pennsylvania.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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