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    Re: If she self-identifies as a "Fool for Christ" ...

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Why on earth does truly not liking her, not being enamored of her, looking at her using critical thought, - all of that doesn't equal what it is. It equals "hate." Why is that.
    You can relate the hate calling from alot of groups...its what you do when you dont like someones beliefs or position when its opposed to yours...Hey, if you dont agree with ME your a hater.....I ignore that just like I ignore the race card

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    Re: If she self-identifies as a "Fool for Christ" ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    The term "fool for Christ" is used in some circles as an expression of faith. It is based on some statements by Paul, in the Bible. He begins by talking about his extensive education; his position in society (a high one, originally); his ancestry and birthrights, and so forth... and goes on to say that none of that matters. "I know nothing but Christ, and him crucified."

    The following passage is primarily where the phrase "fool for Christ" came from, and came into use as an expression of devotion.





    The term "fool for Christ" is not so commonly used now as it was twenty or thirty years ago, when the catchphrase was "everyone is a fool about something, so I might as well be a fool for Christ." My old pastor used to say that often.

    Given that the term isn't widely used anymore, I'm not surprised that many people misunderstand its meaning today.
    I was going to clarify the meaning of the phrase, but you beat me to it. Good post. And a good example of why people should look a little deeper into things before immediately jumping to a conclusion. You may dislike or disagree with Bachman's policies, that's fine. But using this statement to say she calls herself as a fool, as the word is commonly understood and used today, is either ignorant or misleading.
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    Re: If she self-identifies as a "Fool for Christ" ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Do they? Perhaps. But then again, I'm not exactly a supporter of most candidates. I would hope they would stay away from campaigning in churches.
    Why? Church goers vote just like everyone else. Why not court their votes? I don't see how speaking in a church is different than speaking before any other large gathering of like minded people.
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    Re: If she self-identifies as a "Fool for Christ" ...

    I know what "fool for Christ" means. As I stated, I've done a few decades in a pentecostal, fundamentalist church system.

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    Re: If she self-identifies as a "Fool for Christ" ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'm not worried about representing the people, I'm worried about being able to make rational, intelligent decisions based on the evidence. If someone admits they believe an invisible man tells them what to do, I'm immediately going to question their rational ability to function.
    So you question the rational ability to function of every current major Presidential candidate, the current sitting President, every President we've had in the past, and of 90% of Americans? I kinda doubt that. I think you just couldn't resist taking a cheap shot at religion. Which is typical for you.
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    Re: If she self-identifies as a "Fool for Christ" ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    So you question the rational ability to function of every current major Presidential candidate, the current sitting President, every President we've had in the past, and of 90% of Americans? I kinda doubt that. I think you just couldn't resist taking a cheap shot at religion. Which is typical for you.
    However, it is not of me. There is a HUGE difference between having faith in God, and being a fundy.

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    Re: If she self-identifies as a "Fool for Christ" ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    So you question the rational ability to function of every current major Presidential candidate, the current sitting President, every President we've had in the past, and of 90% of Americans? I kinda doubt that. I think you just couldn't resist taking a cheap shot at religion. Which is typical for you.
    Me too. And I've detected that some do have the rational ability to function, while others will just look it up in the 'correct book' to get the answer.

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    Re: If she self-identifies as a "Fool for Christ" ...

    I think it would be nice to have politicians that actually lived by their faith and didn't simply give lip service to their beliefs and go against them when they get elected to congress. Although I'm not sure of Bachman is a genuine Christian or is trying to pander to the Evangelical vote. It's not my place to judge her heart for God, but she isn't the best person for America in my opinion.
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    Re: If she self-identifies as a "Fool for Christ" ...

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    However, it is not of me. There is a HUGE difference between having faith in God, and being a fundy.

    Technically I'm more-or-less a "fundy".



    A third strand—and the name itself—came from a 12-volume study The Fundamentals, published 1910-1915.[13] Sponsors subsidize the free distribution of over three million individual volumes to clergy, laymen and libraries. This version.[14] stressed several core beliefs, including:

    The inerrancy of the Bible
    The literal nature of the Biblical accounts, especially regarding Christ's miracles, and the Creation account in Genesis.
    The Virgin Birth of Christ
    The bodily resurrection and physical return of Christ
    The substitutionary atonement of Christ on the cross
    Fundamentalist Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    With certain limited exceptions, I'm right there with 'em in what I believe.

    Yet oddly enough I'm quite functional and able to have rational political discussions without always referring to scripture...

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    Re: If she self-identifies as a "Fool for Christ" ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Mostly it would depend on her policies that she was pushing. However, her campaigning in a Church is a bit suspect.
    Obama did it. Was it suspect then, too?

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