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What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

What if a Minister refuses to perform gay ceremony?

  • Should be allowed to refuse.

    Votes: 69 98.6%

  • Should be forced to perform.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Should be stripped of license.

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • Should be arrested.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    70
IR-Realist said:
this is a form of indirect form of racism , imagine the same situation with afro-amaricans or a certain group of christianity
he fulfills a job that is responsible for all the people in his country and by this act he does not take the people in consideration that aperently voted for gay marriage ( other wise we would not discuss this topic ) there would be no problem to say no if the voters voted against gay marriage
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Actually, priests and churches do not have to marry blacks or any one else they chose not to.
 
Redress said:
Actually, priests and churches do not have to marry blacks or any one else they chose not to.
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priest's are not Ministers and there is a separation of church and state
 
IR-Realist said:
priest's are not Ministers and there is a separation of church and state
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Priests are not ministers. There is a separation of church and state. Neither of those comments addresses my point or contradicts anything I said. Churches, synagogs, priests, ministers, are under no obligation to marry any one.
 
IR-Realist said:
priest's are not Ministers and there is a separation of church and state
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There are many Christian churches that deem homosexuality perverse. It is in the Bible.

The government cannot intrude upon religion. It may not impose itself upon religion without repercussions.
 
Redress said:
Priests are not ministers. There is a separation of church and state. Neither of those comments addresses my point or contradicts anything I said. Churches, synagogs, priests, ministers, are under no obligation to marry any one.
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if there is a law for something then no minister can go against this , so if gay marriage is accepted in the law then there is clearly a problem ( imagine he is the only person who can marry people then the couple wont get married at all ? even with the law on there side ?
 
IR-Realist said:
if there is a law for something then no minister can go against this , so if gay marriage is accepted in the law then there is clearly a problem ( imagine he is the only person who can marry people then the couple wont get married at all ? even with the law on there side ?
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Secular government cannot impose upon Christianity.

This is what I mean about ACLU perversion, Redress. I suspect the ACLU, which is within the government, will force traditional Christian churches to marry homosexuals because it's now "legal".

They will not stop pushing Christians.
 
IR-Realist said:
if there is a law for something then no minister can go against this , so if gay marriage is accepted in the law then there is clearly a problem ( imagine he is the only person who can marry people then the couple wont get married at all ? even with the law on there side ?
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There is no law saying a priest, minister, church has to marry any one.
 
Wake said:
Secular government cannot impose upon Christianity.
This is what I mean about ACLU perversion, Redress. I suspect the ACLU, which is within the government, will force traditional Christian churches to marry homosexuals because it's now "legal".
They will not stop pushing Christians.
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They will argue that churches cannot prevent people from exercising their "fundamental right" to marry.
Or something.
 
IR-Realist said:
if there is a law for something then no minister can go against this , so if gay marriage is accepted in the law then there is clearly a problem ( imagine he is the only person who can marry people then the couple wont get married at all ? even with the law on there side ?
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you're confused.

Just because a law says gay marriage is legal someplace, that law does not REQUIRE religious officials in any organized (or non organized) religion to perform said marriage. That's what the Justice of the Peace is for.

If it's not against the law to **** a sheep, meaning it is therefore legal, does that mean you are required to do it?
 
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Wake said:
There are many Christian churches that deem homosexuality perverse. It is in the Bible.

The government cannot intrude upon religion. It may not impose itself upon religion without repercussions.
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Of course you know that some in the gay community are already trying to get it designated as a hate crime if a minister gets behind the pulpit and preaches against homosexuality.
 
SPC said:
Of course you know that some in the gay community are already trying to get it designated as a hate crime if a minister gets behind the pulpit and preaches against homosexuality.
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In the US? Do you have an example?
 
Wake said:
Secular government cannot impose upon Christianity.

This is what I mean about ACLU perversion, Redress. I suspect the ACLU, which is within the government, will force traditional Christian churches to marry homosexuals because it's now "legal".

They will not stop pushing Christians.
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that the church doesnt want to do this is indeed in there right but i thought the discussion was about secular law
 
Wake said:
Secular government cannot impose upon Christianity.

This is what I mean about ACLU perversion, Redress. I suspect the ACLU, which is within the government, will force traditional Christian churches to marry homosexuals because it's now "legal".

They will not stop pushing Christians.
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You have any evidence whatsoever to back up your wild claim, other than your complete and total misunderstanding of the ACLU?
 
Wake said:
Secular government cannot impose upon Christianity.

This is what I mean about ACLU perversion, Redress. I suspect the ACLU, which is within the government, will force traditional Christian churches to marry homosexuals because it's now "legal".

They will not stop pushing Christians.
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What do you mean by "within the government"?
 
The American Criminal Liberties Union? I'm with Michael Savage on those bastards.
 
ecofarm said:
The American Criminal Liberties Union? I'm with Michael Savage on those bastards.
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The ACLU does good work, I don't know why people don't like them.
 
Your Star said:
The ACLU does good work, I don't know why people don't like them.
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Damn the ACLU for defending religious freedom. That is so counter to conservative ideology...
 
SPC said:
It has happened in Canada. How long do you think it will be before they try to do it here?
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Give an example of where anything like this is happening here. We don't make minsiters marry anyone. They choose who they marry and refuse for any reason they want.
 
SPC said:
It has happened in Canada. How long do you think it will be before they try to do it here?
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What did "they" do in Canada, and who are the "they" who will do it in the USA?
 
SPC said:
It has happened in Canada. How long do you think it will be before they try to do it here?
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I'm sure nut wad will try it. Just like nut wads try to ban gay marriage.:shrug:
 
Manc Skipper said:
What did "they" do in Canada, and who are the "they" who will do it in the USA?
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Canadian Government made it a "thought crime" to preach against homosexuality behind the pulpit.
 
SPC said:
Canadian Government made it a "thought crime" to preach against homosexuality behind the pulpit.
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Do they have a clause in their constitution that prevents such?
 
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