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What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

What if a Minister refuses to perform gay ceremony?

  • Should be allowed to refuse.

    Votes: 69 98.6%

  • Should be forced to perform.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Should be stripped of license.

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • Should be arrested.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    70
BDBoop said:
Good grief, Charlie Brown. Sulk much?
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:shrug: no sulking. It might very well be good for our churches - particularly the Catholic Church might start extending her doctrine a bit more thoroughly.
 
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Boo Radley said:
No, they won't. They get to choose who they marry among hetrosexuals now, with no fear of losing a license.
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and have not yet run up against an interest group who will bring the pressure to bear on them for it. they are exercising state function, and they it will be a relatively easy argument to make - the logic runs along the same lines as the "Gay Marriage Compromise" thread proposed elsewhere.
 
Are they forced to perform other kinds of weddings or can you just get a different guy? Why would you want to force someone to do something they do not want to do other than malice? Personally I would want a happy preacher.
 
what if a Minister refuses to perform gay ceremony?

find another one who will happily perform it.

simple.
 
SPC said:
With Gay marriage now being made legal in 6 states, what should be the reaction to a minister refusing to perform the ceremony?
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Legally? None. 1st amendment.
 
The legislation is enabling, not prescriptive. It allows equality, it doesn't force an individual minister/priest to comply.
 
cpwill said:
and have not yet run up against an interest group who will bring the pressure to bear on them for it. they are exercising state function, and they it will be a relatively easy argument to make - the logic runs along the same lines as the "Gay Marriage Compromise" thread proposed elsewhere.
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If that were the case, they couldn't refuse to marry hetrosexuals couples now. As is often the case, the arguments you make can just as easily be made against hetrosexuals long before now. It is silly to believe anything changes that would require churches to marry anyone they don't want to. The state has a court house and does not need to involve churches. When will your side run out of fear mongering tactics?
 
SPC said:
With Gay marriage now being made legal in 6 states, what should be the reaction to a minister refusing to perform the ceremony?
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There should be no reaction.

Government is not to impose on religion.
 
Wake said:
There should be no reaction.

Government is not to impose on religion.
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Unfortunately, that is exactly what liberals want them to do, particularly the ACLU. Note all the lawsuits that have cropped up lately just over the displaying of even a cross, and let's not forget the atheist group in New York who is pitching a fit over the street with the religious name near Ground Zero.
 
SPC said:
Unfortunately, that is exactly what liberals want them to do, particularly the ACLU. Note all the lawsuits that have cropped up lately just over the displaying of even a cross, and let's not forget the atheist group in New York who is pitching a fit over the street with the religious name near Ground Zero.
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Completely and utterly false.
 
SPC said:
Unfortunately, that is exactly what liberals want them to do, particularly the ACLU. Note all the lawsuits that have cropped up lately just over the displaying of even a cross, and let's not forget the atheist group in New York who is pitching a fit over the street with the religious name near Ground Zero.
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i call bull****.
 
No, it's completely true. You can't even put a nativity scene out now without the ACLU breathing down your neck. What makes you so sure they won't try to step in with a lawsuit to start making ministers perform gay wedding ceremonies?
 
You can't put a nativity scene on city property. You can put it on your own lawn.
 
SPC said:
No, it's completely true. You can't even put a nativity scene out now without the ACLU breathing down your neck. What makes you so sure they won't try to step in with a lawsuit to start making ministers perform gay wedding ceremonies?
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Yes you can, you are completely misinterpreting what the ACLU does, they are a very pro freedom of religion organization.
 
Your Star said:
Yes you can, you are completely misinterpreting what the ACLU does, they are a very pro freedom of religion organization.
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I didn't know the ACLU was pro-Christian.

It makes me wonder, then, why the ACLU is always legally harassing Christians.
 
Wake said:
I didn't know the ACLU was pro-Christian.

It makes me wonder, then, why the ACLU is always legally harassing Christians.
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ACLU Supports Students' Right of Religious Freedom | ACLU - Colorado

ACLU-NJ Defends Anti-Abortion Student’s Free Speech | ACLU-NJ News--Christian and anti-abortion, holy hell!

ACLU-TN Successfully Advocates On Behalf Of Student Preachers | American Civil Liberties Union

I can list dozens more. If you believe propaganda, you will never know the truth.
 
Wake said:
I didn't know the ACLU was pro-Christian.

It makes me wonder, then, why the ACLU is always legally harassing Christians.
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The ACLU is pro first amendment.
 
Wake said:
I didn't know the ACLU was pro-Christian.

It makes me wonder, then, why the ACLU is always legally harassing Christians.
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How long do you think it's going to be before they start harassing ministers for refusing to perform gay wedding ceremonies?
 
SPC said:
No, it's completely true. You can't even put a nativity scene out now without the ACLU breathing down your neck. What makes you so sure they won't try to step in with a lawsuit to start making ministers perform gay wedding ceremonies?
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You forgot the word "liberal."
 
SPC said:
No, it's completely true. You can't even put a nativity scene out now without the ACLU breathing down your neck. What makes you so sure they won't try to step in with a lawsuit to start making ministers perform gay wedding ceremonies?
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Bull. Give one example where the ACLU has opposed a church or anyone from putting a nativity scene on church or private property.
 
Redress said:
ACLU Supports Students' Right of Religious Freedom | ACLU - Colorado

ACLU-NJ Defends Anti-Abortion Student’s Free Speech | ACLU-NJ News--Christian and anti-abortion, holy hell!

ACLU-TN Successfully Advocates On Behalf Of Student Preachers | American Civil Liberties Union

I can list dozens more. If you believe propaganda, you will never know the truth.
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I find it hard to believe that uber-liberal/secular ACLU would support and defend Christianity. Perhaps they defend it in free speech alone. Do you know if the ACLU has ever tried to pervert or change Christian churches?
 
SPC said:
How long do you think it's going to be before they start harassing ministers for refusing to perform gay wedding ceremonies?
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Who's to say they won't take the side of the minister? After all freedom of religion is a civil right.
 
SPC said:
How long do you think it's going to be before they start harassing ministers for refusing to perform gay wedding ceremonies?
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Right about never. This is nothing but a strawman and a despicable attempt by the right to scare morons. Are you one of the demagogues or one of the morons?

The case law on this is clear and I don't think there is anyone that would seriously argue that forcing a church to perform a ceremony would not interfere with freedom of religion. Look at the poll, not one person has answered that they would support your strawman.
 
Wake said:
I find it hard to believe that uber-liberal/secular ACLU would support and defend Christianity. Perhaps they defend it in free speech alone. Do you know if the ACLU has ever tried to pervert or change Christian churches?
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Got any examples of this perversion or changing of churches? Cuz I don't think it is happening.
 
Ikari said:
Why would there need to be a reaction. He ain't got to perform a ceremony he don't want to. End of story.
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this is a form of indirect form of racism , imagine the same situation with afro-amaricans or a certain group of christianity
he fulfills a job that is responsible for all the people in his country and by this act he does not take the people in consideration that aperently voted for gay marriage ( other wise we would not discuss this topic ) there would be no problem to say no if the voters voted against gay marriage
 
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