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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    well you totally misunderstood because it wasnt a shot at you at all LMAO
    nor did I know you were anti abortion LOL

    also I said anti-abortion EXTREMIST, is that you?
    I've been pretty clear that I believe in legal protection for the pre-born and I support efforts making abortion more difficult to obtain. Isn't that your very definition of extremism?

    thank you for being knee jerk though and Ill accept your apology
    I'll believe you if, even after you read what I posted above you still maintain you don't think I'm an extremist.

    and being pro gay rights is never nutty in itself but YES there are EXTREMIST on ever issue and ALL extremists are nut cases
    I think you only espouse this, "there are extremists on all sides" argument when it's convenient, otherwise I've never seen you lament those pro-choice extremists. LOL
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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Has there even been a case that someone took a religious leader to court for not marrying a same sex couple? I'm just curious. Is there any precedent whatsoever to even speculate about this?
    How could there even be such a suit when SSM is not legally recognized in most states? It's only once it becomes a legal right that someone would even have standing to attempt such a lawsuit.
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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I've been pretty clear that I believe in legal protection for the pre-born and I support efforts making abortion more difficult to obtain. Isn't that your very definition of extremism?
    you may have been very clear 1000 times in threads but that doesnt mean "I" know them or put you in my mental Rolodex as anti-abortion, lol ? :shurg:

    I dont have one, only guy I ever remember is that poster who was a troll and got banned and his name was some play on words, cant remember it now but if I saw it I would.

    also it would depend on HOW you want them to be hard to obtain, thats what I would base :my" decision on. Because the fact remains that currently that is impeding and trying to back door peoples rights/freedoms but you may have very reasonable ideas, again I dont know them.

    I know I defended you and a thread im not allowed to talk about upstairs lol


    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I'll believe you if, even after you read what I posted above you still maintain you don't think I'm an extremist.
    I dont think anything about you on the subject yet, dont know enough info like I said above.

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I think you only espouse this, "there are extremists on all sides" argument when it's convenient, otherwise I've never seen you lament those pro-choice extremists. LOL
    again you would unknowingly be wrong because I always blast extremist, and on this board ive never met a pro-choice extremist, what would that be? how would you define that?

    a person who would allow free abortion 24/7 on every corner, at any time, for any reason, even after viability and after its immediately born?

    then yes they would DEFINITELY be a nutcase.

    give me an examples if you have some in mind and Ill answer honestly
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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    How could there even be such a suit when SSM is not legally recognized in most states? It's only once it becomes a legal right that someone would even have standing to attempt such a lawsuit.
    as there ever been a case against a church for not marring any couple?
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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    This is not a relevant question. Priests and ministers are already permitted to refuse to perform any and all marriages as they wish. I was married in the Atlanta archdiocese and if my then-fiancee and I did not meet the requirements for marriage in the Church, the Church could and WOULD approve to marry us. They include, but not limited to: six-month waiting period, pre-Cana class, special dispensation in our case because she was not Catholic, and several others. We don't meet the requirements, we don't get Church wedding.

    It has always been like this and the legalization of gay marriages isn't going to change this. Individual churches have the right to set their own rules.
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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    No way should he/she be forced to preform a ceremony they do not agree with. I don't think the majority of people who are for SSM are for this. It clearly violates the 1st Amendment.
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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    it will definitely change in the future.
    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And that's the concern, I think.
    Not really a concern since it is unlikely, and would require a complete overhaul of the first amendment which is unlikely. Anything is possible, but things like this have a very remote chance of happening.
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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    It's only a scare tactic if you believe forcing priests (for example) to perform gay weddings is a bad thing and I don't know that I've seen anyone argue that it would be.
    I do not know of any one who favors forcing priests to perform any wedding ceremony.
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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    With Gay marriage now being made legal in 6 states, what should be the reaction to a minister refusing to perform the ceremony?
    They refuse to perform straight marriages, why should gay be any different?

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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    This whole line of questioning, is just a scare tactic to try and delay the inevitable legalization of SSM throughout the 50 states. It's quite sad really.
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