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Thread: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You need evidence and not wild leaps. By your logic, we're going to force ministers to marry all hetrosexuals who want to be rmarried or we're denying them their rights. Hasn't happened. Ministers deny marrying people all the time.
    It's not heterosexuals who are wanting special privileges.

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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by IR-Realist View Post
    if there is a law for something then no minister can go against this , so if gay marriage is accepted in the law then there is clearly a problem ( imagine he is the only person who can marry people then the couple wont get married at all ? even with the law on there side ?
    The couple will still be married but wont be able to have a ceremony at a chruch. They can choose to celebrate it elsewhere like many straight couples do or decide to not even have a ceremony.

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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    Of course you know that some in the gay community are already trying to get it designated as a hate crime if a minister gets behind the pulpit and preaches against homosexuality.
    Do you have a link or any proof for this?

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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Declining to perform a service is in no way preventing people from excercising their other options for a provider of such a service.
    Exactly... my point exactly...
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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    It's not heterosexuals who are wanting special privileges.
    Who is wanting special privileges?

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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    It's not heterosexuals who are wanting special privileges.
    LBGT people aren't asking for special privileges. It's a lie to say so.
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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    You do understand that I completely agree with you, and that my post that you quoted is saying that, right?

    I think that people should understand how committed to religious freedom liberals generally are, including the atheist ones. I believe that freedom of conscience is one of the most important freedoms we have. I will argue irreverently and with enthusiasm against religion in the public discourse. I dislike religion. But if people are ever forced to support a religion or dogma they disagree with, or are barred in any way by anyone from religious practices that affect only people who are consenting to it, or are prevented from proselytizing, I will be there, supporting religious people all the way. Your freedom to practice your religion is very important to me. I cannot emphasize that enough. And I am pretty sure I am the norm, more or less, for atheist liberals.
    Many Conservative Catholics are also devoted to religious freedom, as well as the freedom to not be religious. Catholics have a long history of having to deal with Protestants forcing their beliefs and even their abridged Bible on Catholics. If anyone forces non-religious people to participate in a religious ceremony, I will also be there to protect their rights as well.
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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPC View Post
    It's not heterosexuals who are wanting special privileges.
    Depends. If heterosexuals are wanting a monopoly on marriage, then yes, it is in fact heterosexuals wanting special privileges. Homosexuals certainly are not asking for any more rights than strait people.
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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    How can a Church deny this?
    Deny what? Not marrying a couple they do not want to marry?

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    Re: What if a Minister refuses to perform a gay wedding ceremony?

    Quote Originally Posted by IR-Realist View Post
    if there is a law for something then no minister can go against this , so if gay marriage is accepted in the law then there is clearly a problem ( imagine he is the only person who can marry people then the couple wont get married at all ? even with the law on there side ?
    Doubt he is going to be the only person available to perform the wedding since every county has at least one JotP to perform weddings.

    But in case they want someone else or the county is just so small they only have one JotP and he is terminally ill or something, they can try this site.

    Wedding Officiants.net -- wedding clergy officiant minister priest rabbi judge notary justice of the peace wedding chapel

    This is how I found my wedding officiant. Everyone on here is legally registered with their state to perform wedding ceremonies.

    If worse comes to worse, there is also Vegas. Or they can do what a lot of military members do and get their buddy ordained over the internet and registered or, in some states or counties, permission to legally perform weddings for a day specifically so that they can preside over a couple's wedding.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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