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Are you proud to be an American?

Are you proud to be an American?


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DashingAmerican

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I know that everybody here has their differences and that we rarely all agree on something, but as it is, do you think that America is a wonderful country and are you proud to be an American?

I, for what it's worth, am proud to be an American.
 
I know that everybody here has their differences and that we rarely all agree on something, but as it is, do you think that America is a wonderful country and are you proud to be an American?

I, for what it's worth, am proud to be an American.

No. Why would I be proud of something I had no control over? It's just by an accident of birth that I was born here. I can understand the pride if someone is an immigrant and actually had to work hard to become an American...but I don't understand why those of us who are natural-born US citizens have anything to be proud of.
 
No. Why would I be proud of something I had no control over? It's just by an accident of birth that I was born here. I can understand the pride if someone is an immigrant and actually had to work hard to become an American...but I don't understand why those of us who are natural-born US citizens have anything to be proud of.

Because, however miniscule, you have influence over it.
 
I reserve pride for things that I have done myself. I don't take pride in the accomplishments of others, but I do honor the sacrifices made so that I might have the freedom to accomplish the things worthy of being prideful.

IMO in a Democracy people get the government they deserve, and in this sense I believe we the American people should not have pride, but should be ashamed.
 
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Honestly, I am more proud of being Southern born and bred, 6 generations. I more proud of that.
 
Uhhh i like America. But sometimes im not and sometimes i am. But really I have no control that i was born here so i kind of save the nationalistic bull****.
 
it's become "unfashionable" to be proud to be an american nowadays. i remember back in dem gud ol' days....we's
were taught to be proud of dis herr country and it's history. we were taught that "manifest destiny" was a great achievement.
now, kids are taught that "manifest destiny" was little more than a bunch of bloodthirsty, slave driving crackers
who plundered the peaceful red man from coast to coast. this loss of patriotism has had a negative effect on the nation as a whole.
 
... why is that?

That is the way most Southern people are raised: family, state, the Southland, the United States. In that order of identification and loyalty. Yes, of course there are exceptions to every rule.
 
Because, however miniscule, you have influence over it.

I don't have any more influence over where I was born than I do my race or gender.
There is absolutely NO reason to be proud of one's nationality. It's typically just an excuse for xenophobic nationalism, or used to justify wars of choice in order to "civilize" savage people in other countries.
 
now, kids are taught that "manifest destiny" was little more than a bunch of bloodthirsty, slave driving crackers
who plundered the peaceful red man from coast to coast.

And how exactly is that characterization inaccurate?
 
And how exactly is that characterization inaccurate?

the injuns weren't "peaceful" for one thing. at least not the majority of the tribes. and who gives a **** anyway?
this whole pacifist weakling approach to life which liberalism advocates and enforces is why our government can
now walk all over our liberties.
 
the injuns weren't "peaceful" for one thing. at least not the majority of the tribes. and who gives a **** anyway?
this whole pacifist weakling approach to life which liberalism advocates and enforces is why our government can
now walk all over our liberties.

So you support conquest, slaughter and the pillaging of the property of others?

Please tell me more about this "pacifist weakling approach to life" because I'm no liberal and I'm opposed to the initiation of force, support the rule of law and individual rights.
 
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So you support conquest, slaughter and the pillaging of the property of others?

ummmmm...if i were at war? **** yes. if i were invading a foreign land? yes again. war used to be progress.
nowadays? not so much. the geneva convention has rendered the planet stagnant.
 
the injuns weren't "peaceful" for one thing. at least not the majority of the tribes.

OK. So that characterization you described is entirely accurate except for your inclusion of the word "peaceful." :roll:

and who gives a **** anyway?
this whole pacifist weakling approach to life which liberalism advocates and enforces is why our government can
now walk all over our liberties.

The government can now walk all over our liberties...and the way to fix that problem is to whitewash the historical record of walking over people's liberties? :confused:
 
I am generally proud to be an American, but America is far from being perfect, so there are things the U.S. does that I am not proud of.
 
Uhhh i like America. But sometimes im not and sometimes i am. But really I have no control that i was born here so i kind of save the nationalistic bull****.

It's not nationalistic bull**** to be proud of where you come from.
 
Yes I am proud to be an American. I really can care less about states and what not. I am an American first, then a new yorker.
 
ummmmm...if i were at war? **** yes. if i were invading a foreign land? yes again. war used to be progress.
nowadays? not so much. the geneva convention has rendered the planet stagnant.

The existence of people like you is one reason that I'm often ashamed to be an American. That's a ****ing disgusting mindset, and just confirms my view that many Americans are no more "civilized" than the Taliban, and they'd behave exactly the same way if given the chance.
 
It's not nationalistic bull**** to be proud of where you come from.

Yeah, it really is. You have no control over where you were born. Being proud to be an American isn't much different than being proud to be white or being proud to be male. Why would you be proud of an accident of your birth, rather than your own personal achievements?
 
Are you proud to be an American?

In a distant sort of a way. Humanism and personal achievement have higher priority than nationalism.

Regardless, if you are making the choice to continue in the process of being a member of a country, you have the right to be proud of that's country's accomplishments.

However, in the same way, you are also responsible for its mistakes and have a moral obligation to acknowledge and improve upon them.
 
My family and I have had plenty of influence in this nation. We have lots to be proud of, from personal to family to organization to national achievements, we've been a part of the action and not just a slave bystander as many in the world are.

Of, by and for the people. Damn right I'm proud. #1, thanks to you and me.
 
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No. As other have said, why would I be proud of the chunk of dirt I happened to be born on? Whatever I make have done towards the end of having a positive impact on the place I live, I could have done that anywhere.

In addition, I am often tempted to be ashamed of the way my country acts.
 
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