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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Good or bad I am proud to be an American.
    Me too. I like the ideals of this country, and I'm proud to be a product of those ideals. And when this country fails to live up to those ideas, I want to help it get back on the path, rather than wash my hands of it. I'm proud to be American.
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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    I know that everybody here has their differences and that we rarely all agree on something, but as it is, do you think that America is a wonderful country and are you proud to be an American?

    I, for what it's worth, am proud to be an American.
    I'm neither proud nor ashamed. It is what it is. That said, I'm happy as hell that I was born here.

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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Those who don't Love America don't know what it stands for of the Sacrifices by others that give you the right to think what and want and express it any time you want.

    Our young and sometimes not so old fought ans many have died to keep a dream alive, and no it's not perfect, Winston Churchill once said “democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others”

    Some in my Generation used to say: America, Love It or Leave It, I won't go that far. But I will say get an education before you protest or complain about something you can't begin to comprehend.


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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    I'm not proud to be an American (because I am only an American by circumstance), but I am certainly grateful and happy to be one.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Those who don't Love America don't know what it stands for of the Sacrifices by others that give you the right to think what and want and express it any time you want.

    Our young and sometimes not so old fought ans many have died to keep a dream alive, and no it's not perfect, Winston Churchill once said “democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others”
    The subject of the thread is whether we're proud to be American...not whether we appreciate freedom of speech and democracy.
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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Those who don't Love America don't know what it stands for of the Sacrifices by others that give you the right to think what and want and express it any time you want.

    Our young and sometimes not so old fought ans many have died to keep a dream alive, and no it's not perfect, Winston Churchill once said “democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others”

    Some in my Generation used to say: America, Love It or Leave It, I won't go that far. But I will say get an education before you protest or complain about something you can't begin to comprehend.
    You can love America and acknowledge the sacrifices made for freedom without taking pride in it.
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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Those who don't Love America don't know what it stands for of the Sacrifices by others that give you the right to think what and want and express it any time you want.

    Our young and sometimes not so old fought ans many have died to keep a dream alive, and no it's not perfect, Winston Churchill once said “democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others”

    Some in my Generation used to say: America, Love It or Leave It, I won't go that far. But I will say get an education before you protest or complain about something you can't begin to comprehend.
    People have fought and died for our right to complain about our country. You are dishonoring their sacrifice by discouraging others from complaining about their country.

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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    There's absolutely no sense in taking pride in which nation-state I happened to have been born in, a random quirk of circumstance, in which I had no part, whatsoever. While we're on the subject, nation-states are fundamentally illegitimate institutions, and, therefore, shouldn't exist.
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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    You can love America and acknowledge the sacrifices made for freedom without taking pride in it.
    Maybe you can but I have always been proud and maybe that's why worked to make it better if even in a small way, in public office.

    I also never miss a vote in an effort to make a difference because I know everyone counts, and I have seen what can happen when good people do nothing. We end up with California I am not proud of, as I once was before the State went from #1 to 49 in education and in other areas as well.

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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    You can love America and acknowledge the sacrifices made for freedom without taking pride in it.
    yes...because only the liberal can be ashamed of that which he loves.
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