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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    I would, but for practicality. There's a line over which it simply becomes suicidal. As a woman, that line is closer than it would be for a man. And as a white person, that line is closer still than it would be if I were black. Practically speaking, there is nothing I can do in an environment like Sudan other than put band-aids over bullet holes. They have to do that themselves. Also, I am already a citizen of a country that is struggling to maintain its status as a developed country. It is easier and more effective for me to stay. Though I have drawn a hard line of when such a time would be that I would leave.

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    I think the money just fell out of your mouth. America isn't "struggling" to maintain its status as a developed country by any measure. That's a completely ludicrous claim.
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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
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    I think the money just fell out of your mouth.
    Why? It's pointless for me to go somewhere like Sudan and affect lasting change. This is part of the reason I mainly donate to situational causes when I give to charity. Doing anything else is pointless in the long-term, and only serves to drag out current conditions.

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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Very proud to be an AMerican. I even have so of that sily this is my attitude. But pride comes in wanting the best for the country and doesn't mean never looking at the warts.

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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Very proud to be an AMerican. I even have so of that sily this is my attitude. But pride comes in wanting the best for the country and doesn't mean never looking at the warts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Why? It's pointless for me to go somewhere like Sudan and affect lasting change. This is part of the reason I mainly donate to situational causes when I give to charity. Doing anything else is pointless in the long-term, and only serves to drag out current conditions.
    I don't think you understand how hilarious this post is, in the backdrop of everything you've said in this thread.
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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Thinking about it, my thought process goes like this:

    Am I proud of my country? Well, I have enough to eat. My family is safe. I have a good job. I can do pretty much what I want, due to my means. I enjoy my life.

    Would I have this in any other first world country? Most likely.

    Is there anything special about this country that is not offered by another other first world country, that is important to me? Not really.

    Would I rather life somewhere else? Moving is expensive, uncertain, and I doubt I would get any additional benefit by moving.

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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Yes I am proud to be an American.

    I may not like the things that we as a people do at times or what our government does at times. But I am proud to be an American.

    I am proud of the ideals that this nation was founded upon...and the progress that we have made in making this a more free society...even if there have been setbacks we have still continued forward in that respect. I am also proud of what this nation has accomplished technological wise also. Before the US came along people were still using the same means of transportation that had been around for over a thousand years. Before the US came along people still used oil to light houses, and wood was still used to heat a house. Before the US came along it could take months for a simple message to get from point A to point B, if you were lucky enough to have access to carrier pigeons then only days or a couple of weeks. And we accomplished many other things that no other nation accomplished for thousands of years. Indeed it was imo the US and her technological advancements that allowed other countries to make thier own technological advancements. And it was all due to how this country was set up.

    Yeah, I may not have had anything to do with any of that..may not even have anything to do with any other type of advancement. But that doesn't have to stop me from feeling pride in my country and her accomplishments. Why? Because as a nation and a culture our history is still apart of us. It defines America.
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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    I don't think you understand how hilarious this post is, in the backdrop of everything you've said in this thread.
    I look at things practically. Practically, propping up things like that, whether with time or money, doesn't help. So I don't do it.

    If you have an exceptionally poor understanding of charity, that may appear to you to be "choosing not the help." What it is in reality is a recognition that certain environments make helping impossible, and they must be allowed to burn out on their own before that becomes possible.

    My desire to help is emotional, but if I act on it in stupid ways it's rather pointless, isn't it. Your poor grasp on the issue has nothing to do with me.

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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    What kind of STUPID ****ing question is THIS!?!?! Im poor and god damn PROUD to be an American!!!!!
    Best post in the thread.
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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    As to the question, based on the definition I provided, yes, I am proud to be an American. As with all things, there are good and bad things, but overall, I am happy with the way things are run, the accessibility we have to things, and our general freedom to both do things and to disagree. I have no issue with being associated with this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    I look at things practically. Practically, propping up things like that, whether with time or money, doesn't help. So I don't do it.

    If you have an exceptionally poor understanding of charity, that may appear to you to be "choosing not the help." What it is in reality is a recognition that certain environments make helping impossible, and they must be allowed to burn out on their own before that becomes possible.

    My desire to help is emotional, but if I act on it in stupid ways it's rather pointless, isn't it. Your poor grasp on the issue has nothing to do with me.
    It's more of the whole "I feel for people and want to help them, but as a white women there are some places I'm really scared to go so I'm not going to help those people."

    That fact that you aren't capable of feeling pride in anything where you don't happen to notice your direct and immediate involvement is kind of sad.

    The fact that you equate national pride with conceit, even though several people here have said it is not so, is even sadder.

    Do you feel at home anywhere? Because when the people in this thread think if America, they think of it as "home." Heimat.

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    Heimat began as an integral aspect of German, Austrian and Swiss identity that was patriotic without being nationalistic
    ...and it's honestly a little depressing that outside yourself, things like that don't exist for you. They're certainly there. But you've chosen to believe that the bad of America outweighs the good, and that America is the festering armpit of the first world, even though there is certainly no consensus on the subject.
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