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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post


    I have news for you; the only reason your human rights exist is because someone wrote them in a piece of paper. No human being is born with rights,..
    Wrong. Again, the state can respect rights, it can't create rights. You might as well assert that murder is wrong because it is illegal. It's wrong whether it's legal or not. These things precede the law, which is, at it's best, an attempt to realize them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    ust as no zebra is born in the wild having the right to not be eaten.
    This is simply nonsense, that, as far as I can tell, has nothing to do with anything.

    I take it, then, that we are agreed on everything else...?
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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by NGNM85 View Post
    Wrong. Again, the state can respect rights, it can't create rights. You might as well assert that murder is wrong because it is illegal. It's wrong whether it's legal or not. These things precede the law, which is, at it's best, an attempt to realize them.
    lol. that's some funny **** coming from an abortion crusader.
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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. Only true humility is the antidote to shame. Pride is blinding, and IMO is a big contributor to the decay of our nation. The politicians have riled the emotions of many to support dead-end policies or to question loyalties.

    There are many things about America that I love and I am glad I was born into such privilege. I also love the freedoms that we have versus the next country. But pride... I have no place for that in my heart.

    Pride is little more than self-reward. Sometimes it is justified, but always it is delusional. If you are too busy feeling good about yourself then you are more prone to avoiding your mistakes or fatal flaws. No victory is an excuse to self-aggrandize in perpetuity - inner work is constant, whether on the individual or national levels. Self-empowerment does not come from pride, but true accomplishment through adversity, and through integrating both the light and shadow aspects of yourself.

    Pride never has and never will be what makes America great - it is hard work, blood, sweat, and tears. If you become too attached to patting yourself on the back you lose scope of all the work that remains to be done. It's never over, especially in a nation that requires eternal vigilance of its freedoms to the degree America does.

    Pride has made our nation lazy.

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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    1) Not being proud does not mean being ashamed.

    2) Loving something does not mean that one has to be proud of it. I love America the same way I love Big Macs. They're both ****ing awesome. Should I be proud of Big Macs?
    They have the best french fries.

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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by lewstherin View Post
    lol. that's some funny **** coming from an abortion crusader.
    One has to be a person, or, at least, a human being, in order to have rights.
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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    That's just a stupid assertion. I don't deny being Asian, male, straight, American, a 21-year-old, or a Marylander.
    I am proud I have asthma!

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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by NGNM85 View Post
    One has to be a person, or, at least, a human being, in order to have rights.
    you're deflecting off into legal definitions now. you said legality didn't matter. remember?
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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I am proud, and lucky to be an American. So many opportunities are awarded to me simply because of where I was born.
    Wouldn't a better word be grateful instead of proud? I am proud of my accomplishments that having rights have enabled me to accomplish. And the non citizens living in America are grateful they are here, but they aren't American to have pride in being. It still makes sense that they are grateful though.

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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    A person being born here (or anywhere) is the culmination of everything their ancestors have done, all the places they've moved, and all the ambitions they've had.

    I don't think "you" could have been born anywhere else. It's not luck of the draw.
    Some of my family came here recently too, but I was born in the states... Aren't you kind of arguing that you should be proud of your former country too? That is also the culmination of everything YOUR ancestors did.

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    Re: Are you proud to be an American?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    You weren't pointing out reality. All you did was show your ass.
    I have trouble reading that dude's posts for some reason....

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