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    Re: Would you support a constitutional marriage amendment if circumstance were differ

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    That might be true, but while most courts have overturned gay marriage bans, when the people are given the chance to vote it has always gone in favor of traditional marriage, even in California. So the court victories in favor of gay marriage may be more indicative of where it has been tried, not of complete consensus among all courts in the United States in favor of gay marriage.
    The votes have been narrowing, and public opinion continues to go towards SSM. Just because something has happened does not mean it will continue to happen. Further, the courts have been extremely instep on the issue. Under any level of scrutiny, a ban on SSM is going to fail, and strict scrutiny(the highest level) is quite likely. DOMA is the only stumbling block to SSM right now, and I know of no legal expert who thinks it has any chance in the courts. Once DOMA goes down, then just one state without a residency requirement for marriage legalizing SSM means SSM is here to stay.
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    Re: Would you support a constitutional marriage amendment if circumstance were differ

    Marriage is too tied up with religion. Any definition of it by the government will make some group unhappy. It will impinge on the freedom of religion. There should be a way to set up a relationship between people defined, regulated, documented like what we now call marriage but that is available to any two people that stets up what married people have now in situations like one being hospitalized. People define their relationships anyway, not the government.

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    Re: Would you support a constitutional marriage amendment if circumstance were differ

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Not in NY. 60% of our state supports gay marriage. Marriage should be decided at the state level only. DOMA needs to go out the window and states need to decide on marriage issues. If texas wants to discriminate against its citizens and say only a man and a woman can marry, then so be it.
    So you are more in line with Michelle Bachmann and Herman Cain on this as opposed to Obama. By the way, DOMA was designed to protect state's rights to self determination on marriage.
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    Re: Would you support a constitutional marriage amendment if circumstance were differ

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The votes have been narrowing, and public opinion continues to go towards SSM. Just because something has happened does not mean it will continue to happen. Further, the courts have been extremely instep on the issue. Under any level of scrutiny, a ban on SSM is going to fail, and strict scrutiny(the highest level) is quite likely. DOMA is the only stumbling block to SSM right now, and I know of no legal expert who thinks it has any chance in the courts. Once DOMA goes down, then just one state without a residency requirement for marriage legalizing SSM means SSM is here to stay.
    Do you support the government redefining marriage? Or do you think government should get out of marriage?
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    Re: Would you support a constitutional marriage amendment if circumstance were differ

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    So you are more in line with Michelle Bachmann and Herman Cain on this as opposed to Obama. By the way, DOMA was designed to protect state's rights to self determination on marriage.

    BS every state has recognize another state's heterosexual marriage. DOMA had but one purpose and that is to discriminate against gay citizens.

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    Re: Would you support a constitutional marriage amendment if circumstance were differ

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    So you are more in line with Michelle Bachmann and Herman Cain on this as opposed to Obama. By the way, DOMA was designed to protect state's rights to self determination on marriage.
    No. DOMA was designed to deny SSM. Saying the federal government does not recognize SSM is taking rights away from the states. There is no way to spin that as protecting states rights, and in fact it is failing in the courts due to states rights.
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    Re: Would you support a constitutional marriage amendment if circumstance were differ

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    BS every state has recognize another state's heterosexual marriage. DOMA had but one purpose and that is to discriminate against gay citizens.
    Winston, do you discriminate against polygamous marriage?
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    Re: Would you support a constitutional marriage amendment if circumstance were differ

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    Winston, do you discriminate against polygamous marriage?

    Do you always change goal posts?

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    Re: Would you support a constitutional marriage amendment if circumstance were differ

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No. DOMA was designed to deny SSM. Saying the federal government does not recognize SSM is taking rights away from the states. There is no way to spin that as protecting states rights, and in fact it is failing in the courts due to states rights.
    Same question, do you discriminate against polygamous marriage?
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    Re: Would you support a constitutional marriage amendment if circumstance were differ

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Do you always change goal posts?

    It is a question related directly to this debate. Interesting that you choose not to answer it.
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