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    Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excessive?

    In Virginia, there's an entire list of things that could get an ordinary citizen slapped with a misdemeanor charge.

    Virginia Reckless Driving Charges FAQ - VA Reckless Driving Ticket Frequently Asked Questions - Virginia Reckless Driving Summons Ticket Charge

    Simply going over 20 miles over the speed limit; Failing to use turn signals; Simply driving 80 mph; Obstructed view and even learning how to drive in an empty parking lot. See above.

    In your opinion, is this a bit too excessive?

    I live in California where the tickets are very expensive but at least, as far as speed is concerned, the highways are consistent in their posted limit and a maximum leeway of 15 miles over the limit is generally tolerated.

    What are your thoughts?

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Of course not. If you cannot figure out how to drive within the rules, you suffer consequences.
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    In Virginia, there's an entire list of things that could get an ordinary citizen slapped with a misdemeanor charge.

    Virginia Reckless Driving Charges FAQ - VA Reckless Driving Ticket Frequently Asked Questions - Virginia Reckless Driving Summons Ticket Charge

    Simply going over 20 miles over the speed limit; Failing to use turn signals; Simply driving 80 mph; Obstructed view and even learning how to drive in an empty parking lot. See above.

    In your opinion, is this a bit too excessive?

    I live in California where the tickets are very expensive but at least, as far as speed is concerned, the highways are consistent in their posted limit and a maximum leeway of 15 miles over the limit is generally tolerated.

    What are your thoughts?
    I think that you don't know dick about Virginia.
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Of course not. If you cannot figure out how to drive within the rules, you suffer consequences.
    Yes of course. That wasn't the question. The thread has nothing to do with should punishment accompany an traffic violation, but if such punishment is excessive or not. Virginia seems to be one of a very few states who go as far as charging people with misdemeanors and jail time for things that normally could only entail a ticket and possibly a driving course. It is at least more understandable to issue an expensive ticket for such an offense, but a misdemeanor?

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

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    I think that you don't know dick about Virginia.
    A know the hypocrisy of conservatism which fights big government only in so far as economic freedom will allow, but falls short of fighting big government in civil and personal freedoms. I know enough about Virginia to know that I don't like their traffic laws, or at least this one.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    In Virginia, there's an entire list of things that could get an ordinary citizen slapped with a misdemeanor charge.

    Virginia Reckless Driving Charges FAQ - VA Reckless Driving Ticket Frequently Asked Questions - Virginia Reckless Driving Summons Ticket Charge

    Simply going over 20 miles over the speed limit; Failing to use turn signals; Simply driving 80 mph; Obstructed view and even learning how to drive in an empty parking lot. See above.

    In your opinion, is this a bit too excessive?

    I live in California where the tickets are very expensive but at least, as far as speed is concerned, the highways are consistent in their posted limit and a maximum leeway of 15 miles over the limit is generally tolerated.

    What are your thoughts?
    I would say driving 20 mph over would be reckless. No turn signals, perhaps, depends on the situation
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    doing 20 over in a 60 zone with light traffic not reckless

    Doing 20 over in a 60 zone with heavy traffic reckless

    Doing 20 over in a school zone reckless
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    I think it's reckless and merits misdemeanor charges. Your reckless driving is placing the lives of others at a higher risk.
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Roads and highways tend to have an inherent maximum safe speed, even if traffic is light, and IMO none of the highways in northern VA are safe above 70 which would be 15 over. When I lived in San Diego, 75 was the norm because the highways were in good shape, but that's simply not feasible here. I totally agree that 75 on these highways is reckless.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    In Virginia, there's an entire list of things that could get an ordinary citizen slapped with a misdemeanor charge.

    Virginia Reckless Driving Charges FAQ - VA Reckless Driving Ticket Frequently Asked Questions - Virginia Reckless Driving Summons Ticket Charge

    Simply going over 20 miles over the speed limit; Failing to use turn signals; Simply driving 80 mph; Obstructed view and even learning how to drive in an empty parking lot. See above.

    In your opinion, is this a bit too excessive?

    I live in California where the tickets are very expensive but at least, as far as speed is concerned, the highways are consistent in their posted limit and a maximum leeway of 15 miles over the limit is generally tolerated.

    What are your thoughts?
    Yes, though I think some of those are reasonable under "reckless". Failing to use signals isn't really reckless. Going 20 over the speed limit can be, obstructed view can be depending on what sort of area of coverage we're talking about. Learning to drive in an empty parking lot is not.
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