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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    That's what Redress proposed. A more stricter punishment. Maybe both of you don't realize that it is already a CLASS 1 Misdemeanor, the highest class of misdemeanor. The only thing higher is a felony. Is that what you support? A felony charge? A mandatory prison sentence? How ridiculous!
    What's ridiculous is wanting to lower the penalty of reckless driving. If we need to we can make it a felony, but I would support harsher sentencing when it comes to reckless driving and going 20 over.
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Very VERY foolish law! It should not be a misdemeanor! Ridiculous!
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Or we could call the next step a Class 1a misdemeanor, and up the penalties by 50 %.
    There is no such thing. Class 1 is the highest level of a misdemeanor. Despite the outcome of the poll, you guys are in the fringe minorities. About as crazy as Kal'Strang, who wants to throw people in prison for texting while driving. In terms of the severity and brutality of laws and their punishments, you guys are its greatest advocates. If I'm wrong, then tell me when you feel the punishment would go over the line. What's next? A prison sentence for people who jaywalk? Why not support what the rest of America views as appropriate and sufficient punishment for speeding 20 miles over the limit- an infraction and a fine.

    Ever since your first response, you've changed the subject entirely into whether or not I will ever take responsibility for my actions and whether or not I even support a law against reckless driving. On both accounts, I do. But the severity of potentially ruining a person's life and their future chances of success because of a single error in judgement or mistake is absolutely cruel punishment.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    There is no such thing. Class 1 is the highest level of a misdemeanor. Despite the outcome of the poll, you guys are in the fringe minorities. About as crazy as Kal'Strang, who wants to throw people in prison for texting while driving. In terms of the severity and brutality of laws and their punishments, you guys are its greatest advocates. If I'm wrong, then tell me when you feel the punishment would go over the line. What's next? A prison sentence for people who jaywalk? Why not support what the rest of America views as appropriate and sufficient punishment for speeding 20 miles over the limit- an infraction and a fine.

    Ever since your first response, you've changed the subject entirely into whether or not I will ever take responsibility for my actions and whether or not I even support a law against reckless driving. On both accounts, I do. But the severity of potentially ruining a person's life and their future chances of success because of a single error in judgement or mistake is absolutely cruel punishment.
    There certainly could be if the people of Virginia choose to make it that way. They probably don't have much sympathy for people who refuse to accept responsibility for their actions either.
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    For people to sign this into law is reckless and irresponsible! A misdemeanor for speeding? Really? 20 over? Give me a ****ing break. STUUUUUPID.
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    There certainly could be if the people of Virginia choose to make it that way. They probably don't have much sympathy for people who refuse to accept responsibility for their actions either.

    Redress you have a point about being responsible. But the penalty is WAYYYYY out of line here. WAY. Not even on the same planet. If youre going 75 in a 55 you get a criminal record!?!? What sense does that make!??! Its like breaking someones arm for burning your hamburger on the grill.
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Redress you have a point about being responsible. But the penalty is WAYYYYY out of line here. WAY. Not even on the same planet. If youre going 75 in a 55 you get a criminal record!?!? What sense does that make!??! Its like breaking someones arm for burning your hamburger on the grill.
    Again I really doubt the officer would issue a reckless driving for that. 50 in a 30 sure is reckless though. Or 40 in a 10 MPH school zone.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    What's ridiculous is wanting to lower the penalty of reckless driving. If we need to we can make it a felony, but I would support harsher sentencing when it comes to reckless driving and going 20 over.
    I was just reading some old threads and noticed this draconian response.

    So, you think it is justified to up the penalty to an automatic felony. Let me remind you that it is currently a mandatory misdemeanor, meaning the officer has absolutely no discretion. So, instead of a misdemeanor, you're entertaining the idea of a mandatory felony charge for anyone going 20 over the speed limit? Everywhere I look, including the state of Virginia, the normal buffer zone is about 10 miles over the limit. Back in my home state of CA, you could easily go 15 without fear of being pulled over. Here, anymore than 10 and you're likely to be pulled over. I'm not debating the buffer zone, but I think it's ridiculous that you're arguing for an increase in penalty, from a mandatory misdemeanor to a mandatory felony JUST for going 20 miles over the limit.

    In CA, 20 over the limit is a routine ticket. Expensive, yes. But nothing that sends you to jail or reduces your chances of a decent career. A felony is like a mandatory PRISON sentence and is likely to kill any chances of a real career, let alone a decent one.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    I was just reading some old threads and noticed this draconian response.

    So, you think it is justified to up the penalty to an automatic felony. Let me remind you that it is currently a mandatory misdemeanor, meaning the officer has absolutely no discretion. So, instead of a misdemeanor, you're entertaining the idea of a mandatory felony charge for anyone going 20 over the speed limit? Everywhere I look, including the state of Virginia, the normal buffer zone is about 10 miles over the limit. Back in my home state of CA, you could easily go 15 without fear of being pulled over. Here, anymore than 10 and you're likely to be pulled over. I'm not debating the buffer zone, but I think it's ridiculous that you're arguing for an increase in penalty, from a mandatory misdemeanor to a mandatory felony JUST for going 20 miles over the limit.

    In CA, 20 over the limit is a routine ticket. Expensive, yes. But nothing that sends you to jail or reduces your chances of a decent career. A felony is like a mandatory PRISON sentence and is likely to kill any chances of a real career, let alone a decent one.
    Here is a silly idea: don't break the ****ing law and you do not have to worry. But if you are willing to put others at risk for your convienience, you have no room to complain about the penalty for those actions.
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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Here is a silly idea: don't break the ****ing law and you do not have to worry. But if you are willing to put others at risk for your convienience, you have no room to complain about the penalty for those actions.
    So, the severity doesn't matter all? Should we stick them in prison for a year or two or three or life just because? Is it right to challenge the severity of punishment? I think so. Heck, they chop people's heads off in other countries for being adulterous, and I'm sure you would object to that. The severity of the law is up to debate just as the law itself!

    What you're saying is submit regardless of what the law says or regardless of what the public deems is the right punishment. It's the epitome of a sheepish mentality. Don't question, just follow the crowd. Don't criticize, just accept. We live in a democracy, my friend. Laws and their respective punishments are up to interpretation. And this one is definitely WAY too severe. It's even more ridiculous for digsbe to offer the idea that we need to UP the penalty to a felony! 20 miles over the limit a felony! What world are we living in?

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