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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    A ticket IS a misdemeanor. Any ticket. For anything. Parking tickets are a misdemeanor.

    A misdemeanor means a minor legal infraction. It is a catch-all term for any violation of the law that is not a felony.

    The punishment for a misdemeanor depends on the law. In most cases it is a fine. In some cases (such as simple assault) there can be some jail time. Although the exact definition of "misdemeanor" can vary from state to state, a common rule of thumb is that if you can get more than a year in prison for it, it is a felony rather than a misdemeanor.
    I thought you were a police officer. Any ticket is NOT a misdemeanor. The vast majority of traffic tickets are called INFRACTIONS.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If anything it is too lenient. You put other people's life at extra risk for your convenience, you deserve what you get.
    So what? Driving 20 over the speed limit should warrant a felony with a mandatory prison sentence, or is that still too lenient?

    In most areas of the country, people are issued speeding tickets for going 15 or 20 miles over the limit. That is the norm. But in the vast stretch of land we call America, it is only an infraction and it doesn't ruin your chances of employment.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    I drove 60 in a 35 and didn't get a reckless after I explained to the officer I was in a rush coming back from the store to make a HAM sandwich. I must be really charismatic.
    We're talking about specifically Virginia, where it is mandatory.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Doing 20 over is reckless.

    Assuming the posted speed was correct to begin with, which in so far a freeways go, it is not.

    The posted speed for freeways should be around 90.
    Going 90 anywhere in Virginia will warrant a mandatory 30-60 days in jail, unless you have a really persuasive lawyer.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Yes it is reckless. As far as we know you are not a NASCAR(probably a poor example since all they do is turn left and drive in circles, but they are experts at driving fast) or Grand Prix driver. And even if you were most of everyone else is doing the speed limit while changing lanes, breaking, slowing down and speeding back up to the speed limit. Those are speed limit signs not speed suggestion signs, they are up there for a good reason.
    As I said above, going 15 or 20 miles over the speed limit will usually get you a speeding ticket. For the vast majority of America, 15 or 20 miles over the speed limit will mean an infraction and in the worst case scenario, an expensive ticket. But to up the ante and to make what normally constitutes speeding a misdemeanor means that the state of Virginia is turning ordinary, law-abiding citizens into cop-hating criminals.

    For the rest of America, 15 or 20 over is called speeding. In Virginia, it's called reckless driving. Have YOU ever gone over the speed limit? Have you ever received a speeding ticket? If you have, it'll be interesting to discover how fast you were going. Again, it's the norm in America to issue a speeding ticket for 15 or 20 over, but a permanent criminal record that could easily affect your chances of future employment is not reasonable. It is excessive.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    I'd say it depends. On the freeway where the speed limit is in excess of 55MPH or in rural areas, 20 over isn't a big deal in my mind. But in crowded cities, on suburban streets, or in areas where the speed limit is under 30MPH, going 20 over is dangerous.
    Too bad there are no exceptions in Virginia.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think it's reckless and merits misdemeanor charges. Your reckless driving is placing the lives of others at a higher risk.
    Have you ever gone 10 miles over the speed limit? Cops can also, at their discretion, issue a reckless driving charge for 15 miles over the limit. It is not mandatory at 15, but it is possible. Have you ever received a speeding ticket in your life?

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    Too bad there are no exceptions in Virginia.
    But there are. A reckless driving charge would be an officer's discretion.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    But there are. A reckless driving charge would be an officer's discretion.
    In terms of speed, it is absolutely mandatory for the officer, if he pulls you over, to issue you a misdemeanor violation at 20 over the limit. At 15 over the limit, it is up to his discretion (which ultimately means anymore than 10 miles over the speed limit, and an officer has the power to nail you with a high crime). In terms of the other scenarios, I'm not really sure if it is mandatory or not. For some of the instances, it is up to the discretion of the officer. But 20 over is definitely mandatory.

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    Re: Is Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor) charge for 20 miles over the speed limit excess

    In Arizona it's called "criminal speeding". I have a heavy foot. I've been stopped twice for that. Once in Ajo driving back from a week in Mexico. Many roads in Arizona beg you to speed. The Interstate is often 75 mph, the police generally spot you 10 mph. If you get caught doing 20 over you deserve it. In Arizona criminal speeding (20+ mph over the speed limit) authorizes the cop to handcuff your butt and take you to jail. In Glendale, Az it is mandatory that you are arrested if a cop stops you for criminal speeding.

    I was most fortunate in Ajo to have a good cop who advised me to come back and face the judge. I returned on the scheduled date and went before the judge in Ajo. This wasn't my first time in traffic court. Like I said, I have a heavy foot. Never have I met a judge like this guy. He put it in a perspective I've never seen nor heard of. He was a hell of a guy. He agreed to wipe my record clean after I provided the court proof of having gone through traffic school. I have never, I will never, speed in or around Ajo again. Such is the respect that I have for the judge and the people of Ajo who elected him. I gave him my word that I wouldn't speed there and I gave him my word that I would come back and spend some time in Ajo and enjoy the town and its history and its people. I have on several occasions - and driving the speed limit the entire time.
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